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Old December 20th, 2006, 03:18 PM

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Oh, I remember the HBM's. I modeled those just by taking cap missiles in SE4 and making them much more damaging, and much, much longer ranges. Of course, the launchers were really bug.

I was able to somehow get the AI to use them occasionally, and extra long range missile duels became quite interesting!

As for the interpenetration, that works great, and yes, you are right, it does more or less cancel each other out (readiness vs warp disorientation)

Datalinks could be modeled by giving ships components that increase the entire fleets defense percentage, but making them extra large, so that it is only cost effective to give them to one or two ships in a fleet... Not perfect, but should come close. Also not sure if this is possible under SE5, I think it was under SE4.

Gunboats shouldn't be too hard to do at some point in the future, either. The warp capability is going to be the sticking point, I think.
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Old December 20th, 2006, 03:46 PM

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The datalink thing is possible in SE5; see the Golden Eclipse mod for an example.

Units can be made warp-capable in SE5.
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Old December 20th, 2006, 04:00 PM

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Dayum! So much possible in 5 that wasn't in 4! I'm verrrrrra happy 'bout that!
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Another update with my expansion of the system hex. I found out that if you want to keep the map looking “right” (as opposed to box-ish) you need to make the width 130% the height. Naturally that means more real-estate to play with when making out systems. My final testing came out with a 62x48 map and 984 radius from center. So I came to about the same map size as Fyron but for aesthetic reasons. As noted before the slow FPS seems to have of been related to another issue which was fixed by one the patches between his testing and mine (v1.20). That is 18% of the SF system map, I should be able to include most all planets but a few of the larger systems will be put on a diet. Fair compromise in my book for now, I will decide what I want to do when I get to that point as I do have a few ideas bouncing around. One thing at a time!

I think I am getting everyone confused, my bad. I have datalink, what I meant to say is that don’t have all the version in canon because there is no similar SE5 ability. The big thing is the blind spot and firing arcs, neither one SE5 has and that was really what later generations of Datalink were for overcoming. Also gunboats are way to easy and I can make them like did the SBMHAWK Pods or even the Pinnace which was a for-runner of the gunboat line. The difference is the Pinnace couldn’t deliver the punch of a small ship and that is way to powerful for such a small and cheap ship to be able to accomplish. A squadron sure, but the early gunboat could take out destroyers one on one with the right weapons load. And as I said I haven’t looked to see how they have been adjusted since those early days.
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Well you have already fudged many things to get them to fit the SEV mold. You could include your vision of gunboats, that arent quite as powerful...
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Think of those egg rolls you always seem to get suckered into eating. You know the ones. Normal egg rolls are good and these aren’t really *bad* there just not you know… normal. You know you will have to eat them sooner or later or risk offending the person who bought/brought them but you still manage to put it off for just one more minute. Well to me GB are like those egg rolls. I am sure I will have to build them in and I already know from just reviewing them they will need to be fudged a little, but if I could just wait one more minute…

Now off to play deity; and Ed said “Let there be light” and he started typing in the stars…
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