Epic Heroes Mod MA game(finished)

Xietor · #1 June 9th, 2007, 10:13 PM

Ok I just set up a random game with ctis, and clicked through a bunch of turns and the summoned monster that uses the flytrap tga appeared with no problems.

That is your dom20 summon guy with all the tentacles.

What operating system are you using?

Xietor · #2 June 9th, 2007, 10:20 PM

I think I have discovered the problem!

That sprite was borrowed from Amos, and he uses a capital "f"
in flytrap. Someusers that use linux cannot use mods that have capital letters.

I will have to see how to fix this with llama on monday. I have corrected the problem on my version of 1.4. We may have to have llamabeast correct it on his server's version as well.

And maybe everyone will have to change the files, which takes 1 min, or if they have no idea how, may have to download a new 1,4 version of the mod that uncapitalized the word flytrap in both tga files, then in 2 spots in the mod itself.

A dollar to a doughnut you use linux.

I implore whatever nation(s) that are next to ctis to not take advantage of him. The stale turn was a conflict between
his operating system and the mod-which is not his fault(or mine either).

Beating up on a nation at had an early stale turn should give no one any satisfaction.

Dragonninjaakira · #3 June 9th, 2007, 11:28 PM

I'm using windows but this message has popped up before with a lot of other nations with epic heroes. For example I cannot play a game as Agartha because as soon as it starts it gives me that error only the Argathan epichero file instead of flytrap. Certain nations work fine IE C'tis until this turn. And during my practice games I never got that hero so I also never ran across a problem...

Xietor · #4 June 9th, 2007, 11:55 PM

Endoperez made the Agartha hero. let me check it out. Actually most of the names and all the weapons are capitalized.

We will need the input of Dr. P, or Llama to straighten this out. I have never had any issues with the mod. So if you have windows, i have no idea what is up.

llamabeast · #5 June 10th, 2007, 07:01 AM

Hi guys, just quickly passing by.

Firstly, if you make any changes just involving graphics files and their names, I won't have to change anything on the LlamaServer.

Secondly, you guys are the first guinea pigs for using the admin options on the website. So perhaps things aren't as clear as they might be (when I have done things myself they seem obvious, of course, so it can be hard to be sure how clear they are).
1 - Turning off quickhost doesn't stop the game hosting. Quickhost just means that the game will host when all the turns are in. If you turn quickhost off it will just wait till the 24 (or 48) hours are up, regardless of whether all the turns are in, then host. Perhaps I should add an explanation of this.
2 - At the moment, when you change the hosting interval from 24 to 48 hours, it _doesn't_ change the _next_ hosting time. But subsequent intervals will be 48 hours. I thought this made sense, but I just explained it to my girlfriend and she said it didn't, or at least wasn't at all obvious. Fair point, I think. So I will change that, or at least add an explanation - I'm sorry it lead to someone staling.

Hope that all makes sense. Good luck in sorting out the EpicHeroes graphics issue.

lch · #6 June 10th, 2007, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Xietor said:
I think I have discovered the problem!

That sprite was borrowed from Amos, and he uses a capital "f"
in flytrap. Someusers that use linux cannot use mods that have capital letters.

That's not true, they can use them just fine. Linux does, however, take care about case, and thus "Flytrap.tga" is not a valid name for "flytrap.tga". All you have to do is to make sure that your file references in the mod are exactly like you named the files.

Then again, I think I remember faintly that Windows automatically uppercases the initial letter and lowercases the rest if you view them in Windows Explorer, since FAT and NTFS is not case-sensitive and it just looks nicer that way or some other bogus reason to put obstacles in your way. So you need to turn off some option in your folder preferences to make Windows Explorer display the real file name, or sth.

Xietor · #7 June 10th, 2007, 02:53 PM

I have discovered a fairly significant bug with Worthy Heroes
1.7 play testing Ctis. The Hydra Hero, I assume erroneously, has a very strong dominion summon of heavy cavalry units.

And by heavy, I mean 5 or more show up a turn. Obviously this will be a big boon in our game to either ctis or pythium if the hydra hero appears. Of course if either of those 2 races took mis3-they do not have to worry about getting the overpowered hydra hero.

So I guess our game is serving not only as a test for Epic Heroes Mod, but the newly released Worthy Heroes 1.7 as well.

Xietor · #8 June 10th, 2007, 03:57 PM

Gandalf has said this concerning the problem with a windows user:

The quirk with windows is that it might have problems with paths that have spaces in it or are longer than 8 characters. In older windows what WinXP handles as "C:\program files\" the olders ones want "C:\progra~1" (6 chracters and a ~x for the numbered occurance of those 6 characters).

Dragon, do you have windows xp? Or an older version?

lch · #9 June 10th, 2007, 04:30 PM

That is not depending on your windows version, but on the file system that you are using. FAT and FAT32 have those abbreviated things as compatibility mode (since you are backwards compatible to MS-DOS 2.0 or something, lawl), NTFS may have the compatibility thing or it may not. Maybe not.

llamabeast · #10 June 10th, 2007, 04:40 PM

Dragon - being as you get similar errors for lots of the units in Epic Heroes, I reckon I know what your problem is. It's nothing to do with the way the files are named (unless you have a very unusual setup, or Windows 98 or something), but I reckon you don't have the Epic Heroes graphics in the right place.

Within your mods folder you should have a folder called 'ehspr' with lots of .tga files in. I suspect you don't. If that's the case, then open the Epic Heroes mod zip again, and make sure you extracted all the files, and put them into the correct folders.

If you do have an 'ehspr' folder, then perhaps some of the files are missing. Check you have 'flytrap.tga' for instance.

If you do have an ehspr folder, and it is in the right place (dominions3\mods\ehspr) and it has all the relevant files in it, then I am a bit stumped. One final thing to check in that case - make sure the Epic Heroes mod file itself ('Epic Heroes.dm' or something like that) is in dominions3\mods, and not in the ehspr folder.

Hope that helps!