Balance opinions

DigitalSin · #1 December 15th, 2007, 12:09 AM

I played a bit of Dom2, then got Dom3, and thats when I actually started to learn. I find that the balance mod is really quite useful in balancing everything, and is most likely what got me into the magic system of Dominions. So I say keep going and balance 3.10, you aren't hurting people who dont want it, just helping people who do.

Kuritza · #2 December 19th, 2007, 07:28 AM

I chose 'but conceptual balance mods makes specific changes that outweigh any improvements'. I believe we had a talk at Mirc about magic crafting changes - making boosters more expensive and thus only available to certain nations reduces diversification possibilities, which is a bad thing. Not only does it mean that many nations are stuck with semi-useless astral 2, less strategic options means less fun. And buffs to the least used spells etc dont compensate for that loss, no way.
Which is a shame, for I liked some of your changes. Jaguar warriors being more expensive, for example.

Morkilus · #3 December 19th, 2007, 01:51 PM

"Reducing diversification possibilities" was one of the major changes from Dom2 -> Dom3. This was just taken further by the CB mod. If you consider it a bad thing, it's your opinion - I like playing SP with a huge magic diversity, but I understand why it was done for this mod. In any case, with empowerment and alchemy there's always the possibility to expand to other paths.

DrPraetorious · #4 December 19th, 2007, 02:02 PM

Some restriction on the ability to diversify into other magic paths is good - if everyone gets all 8 paths, everyone is the same.

On the other hand, this does not mean that more restriction on diversification is always an improvment.

By the end of the game, everyone is going to diversify into every path - this does not mean that everyone's access to every path will be *equal*, or that all paths should be equally hard to diversify into, etc. etc.

But isn't this a moot point as the increases to booster item costs are gone?

KissBlade · #5 December 19th, 2007, 07:12 PM

Right, like I said earlier, keep in mind CB mod is a continuing evolving project. Changes to site searching, booster increases were negatively received and most likely will make future appearances of cbmod. The main great thing about cb mod is essentially it updates itself a lot quicker than patches will, not to mention is able to receive feedback a lot quicker than the current version updates.

Kuritza · #6 December 20th, 2007, 08:45 AM

Well, if path/cost increase to boosters is gone, I'm more inclined to try CB again.
Btw. When I played Tien Chi in a CB blitz, I had a problem with old celestial masters. They kept dying like flies, which was especially painful when the one I empowered to astral 3 (to forge expensive CB boosters) bited the dust. Then I played Tien Chi without CB and realised that masters dont start with old age most of the time.
Is it another change introduced by CB?

Endoperez · #7 December 20th, 2007, 10:55 AM

If so, it's probably unintended. More magic -> higher start age -> Celestial Masters start old.

KissBlade · #8 December 20th, 2007, 02:45 PM

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Kuritza said:
Well, if path/cost increase to boosters is gone, I'm more inclined to try CB again.
Btw. When I played Tien Chi in a CB blitz, I had a problem with old celestial masters. They kept dying like flies, which was especially painful when the one I empowered to astral 3 (to forge expensive CB boosters) bited the dust. Then I played Tien Chi without CB and realised that masters dont start with old age most of the time.
Is it another change introduced by CB?

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