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Old April 10th, 2008, 12:12 AM
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Dude why do you feel that you must turn everything into a debate about who is write and wrong? Really what the [censored] does it matter anyways, you get your news from your skewed sources, and I'll get mine from my skewed sources. Call it even. We both know that when they own the news, they can bend it any way they want.

I could research and post a dozen links to support FOX news but I don't give a [censored] about it enough to waste my time doing that. Besides studies and such are often tainted and horribly misleading. One says X is bad, another says X is good. Who do we believe?

In the end it all boils down to what your comfortable with. So I go back to saying, whatever floats your boat is all well and good in my book.
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Dude why do you feel that you must turn everything into a debate about who is write and wrong? What the [censored] does it matter anyways, you get your news from your skewed sources, and I'll get mine from my skewed sources. Call it even.
Off the top of my head, at least three reasons:

One, I care about my country, and I refuse to sit by and watch it and its values hijacked by misanthropes

Two, I am, at least in my own way, a scientist and therefore I value truths that are arrived at scientifically and verifiably. And truths, even socio-technocratic ones, are even more important than physical truths because they affect people's lives.

Three, I have but one life to give for my country. See [1] above.
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Good enough for me. I am proud to be an American and have the freedom to make those choices. God Bless the United States.
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You guys are both right. In different words you say the same things. It's all in how we digest what we hear or read.

My theory is: "I believe nothing of what I hear, and half of what I see."

When you see reports that tell you something is good for you. It's usually sponsored/funded by the company/business that has the most to gain. That, you can take to the bank!!! The news is no different. It used to be the four W's. Now it's opinionated journalism. I'm sorry, "Alleged" opinionated journalism. Don't want to forget that "A" word that opens the door for opinions!!!
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The truth be told, the truth is seldom told.

Now if you want to hear the truth that I hold to, visit this LINK. This guy about sums it all up quite nicely.
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That guy seems to be selectively paying attention to many things, history in particular. But then again most people who are tend to forget Japanese internment or the Red Scare.
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That guy seems to be selectively paying attention to many things, history in particular. But then again most people who are tend to forget Japanese internment or the Red Scare.
Far more immediate seems to be the realization that far to many people have forgotten New York, Washington D.C., and that small field in PA.
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That guy seems to be selectively paying attention to many things, history in particular. But then again most people who are tend to forget Japanese internment or the Red Scare.
Or the Armenian genocide, or the systematic elimination of native americans, or the Dresden, or Tokyo, firebombing. Where I live we had a systematic elimination of the native population, either killing them off or shipping them off to an island to die. History is full of such things and they only become controversial should the perpetrators fall afoul of public opinion. One could be principled and equally decry all such things, but bother pointing out the problem to people and I feel they tend to argue they were the enemy at the time, or ask where Armenia is. In the face of such things what's the point. Much of what the majority of the population takes as gospel tends to be otherwise if you bother to look into it. One of my hobbies is studying history, and people ask me why I get depressed .
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