Proportions 2.1 available

PvK · #1 April 12th, 2002, 08:08 PM

quote:
Originally posted by RabidFan:
PvK,

The Last level in Industry (level 3 I think) does not produce anything. Was this done on purpose?

Actually, it does allow you to build Arcologies, if/when you also research Construction level 4. There are several multiple tech-level requirements in Proportions. During play, these will look like some tech levels allow nothing new to be built, or less than they are prerequisites for, until you research the other prerequisite techs. SE4's basic game set does not use many multiple tech requirements, and unfortunately, the game does not display partial prereqs in the main research interface.

PvK

mottlee · #2 April 12th, 2002, 08:47 PM

OK I get it

I was just seeing IF I did something wrong......Have to play a lot different in this mod than SEIV normal

so far so good

oleg · #3 April 13th, 2002, 02:12 AM

Yes, the Proportion's gameplay is totally different.

Speaking about cargo load, I would like to see more benefits of high level cargo. Example: whatever is the level of cargo, there is no way to transport more than 1 M people untill you research large transports. As it is now, there is almost no incentive for cargo advance. Medium transport with cargo III still transports the same 1M as with cargo I. It would be nice if the progress in cargo let you to squeeze another million or so.

Phoenix-D · #4 April 13th, 2002, 02:38 AM

"During play, these will look like some tech levels allow nothing new to be built, or less than they are prerequisites for, until you research the other prerequisite techs."

What was suggested to me when I was griping about the same problem is putting in "prototype" techs. These are just copies of the normal stuff, but with one less tech requirements.. and seriously deficent in one or more areas. Maybe they even do nothing, and just say you need to research "blah blah blah" tech area before this will be of any use.

Phoenix-D

ZeroAdunn · #5 April 13th, 2002, 03:33 AM

PVK, have you though about adding more levels to cargo storage??

PvK · #6 April 13th, 2002, 03:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by oleg:
Speaking about cargo load, I would like to see more benefits of high level cargo. Example: whatever is the level of cargo, there is no way to transport more than 1 M people untill you research large transports. As it is now, there is almost no incentive for cargo advance. Medium transport with cargo III still transports the same 1M as with cargo I. It would be nice if the progress in cargo let you to squeeze another million or so.

Yes, I noticed that too, and agree it would be nice to have the possibility of a 2M pop transport before getting to Large Transport. (I found one possible design, but it's speed 1 and requires other high tech, so doesn't count.) Cargo tech is useful of course for other types of cargo. I just want to be a little careful to try to get a 2M medium pop transport without making the max transport too big, or allowing too much other cargo to be jammed in one ship (ala the standard tech set). I guess I should revisit the idea of making a Population Transport module that can hold 1M people but is more expensive and fragile than regular cargo, and too big for most ship designs (so people aren't tempted to abuse it for extra unit storage space, or whatever). Anyway I'll give it some thought and try to come up with something that suits.

PvK

HP Delron · #7 April 13th, 2002, 10:01 PM

I think it is very reasonable to fit over 4million population on a transport. Depending of the size of the ships in this mod. ( i have not played it yet). But i am assuming that the largest of the large reach the size of baseships. Now a base ship is just about as large as the empire state building if you count tonnage. The empire state building has 37million cubic feet. Lets say that large baseship sized ship uses 1/2 its cubic feet on cargo. that is about 19million cubic feet. Now lets say the cryo chambers are 10feet tall 5 feet deep and 5 feet wide. that means you could would have 3.8milx3.8milx1.9mil chambers in that combined cargo space.

that makes about 27M peoples. Using only 1/2 its volume for cargo space. if it used more like 4/5 for cargo space. it would be about 30million cubic feet.
so you would get 3milx6milx6mil. 108M peoples on da ship.

Now mabey the ships in this mod are much smaller or the people in it are just giant lardos i dunno.

But using regular ship sizes. About 108Million peeps could fit on a dedicated Cargo ship loaded to the brim with cryo-statis chambers.

[ 13 April 2002: Message edited by: HP Delron ]