Moving immobile commanders / pretenders

[Edi]

Thankee muchly, we have another red flag. You guys keep coming up with more and more exotic exploits and bugs, so up on the list this one goes.

[Endoperez]

Argitoth said:
transform a water queen, kill it, cast ritual of rebirth, the waterqueen comes back as a niefel jarl mummy, summon another water queen, rinse, repeat.

What does "transform a water queen" mean? Have it cast Transformation?

[Zeldor]

Transformation is not the best way to spend gems I guess. Unless you just want a creature that simply moves, not useful one.

[Tuidjy]

> > transform a water queen, kill it, cast ritual of rebirth, the waterqueen
> > comes back as a niefel jarl mummy, summon another water queen, rinse, repeat.

> What does "transform a water queen" mean? Have it cast Transformation?

He probably meant "Get her into the Hall of fame", or "Summon a Water Queen".
Both are rather tricky in late game. I would much rather have a Water Queen
than a giant mummy, and a chance to get a Water Queen.

Anyway. Why waste 50W and 15D gems for a giant mummy with some water magic?

[NTJedi]

Tuidjy said:
> > transform a water queen, kill it, cast ritual of rebirth, the waterqueen
> > comes back as a niefel jarl mummy, summon another water queen, rinse, repeat.

> What does "transform a water queen" mean? Have it cast Transformation?

He probably meant "Get her into the Hall of fame", or "Summon a Water Queen".
Both are rather tricky in late game. I would much rather have a Water Queen
than a giant mummy, and a chance to get a Water Queen.

Anyway. Why waste 50W and 15D gems for a giant mummy with some water magic?

I agree... the real exploit with ritual of rebirth is taking a large size unit in the hall of fame, then make it your prophet and use ritual of rebirth after it's been killed. Now you have a giant mummy with 3 Holy plus whatever magic paths... then make the giant mummy your prophet bringing you a 4 Holy plus whatever magic paths. If the mummy dies you can use ritual of rebirth where you can once again make him your prophet for a 5 Holy plus whatever magic paths and so on. It's the only way to achieve a 9 Holy giant mummy without using Wish... and significantly less expensive.

[Kristoffer O]

But that is not a bug. All prophets that have returned from the dead are considered more powerful

WAD

[Edi]

Kristoffer O said:
But that is not a bug. All prophets that have returned from the dead are considered more powerful

WAD

Anyway, the prophet may be WAD, and I find it delicious, but is the transforming a unique, then resummoning same unique a bug or is it WAD? As well as the get famous unique killed, Rebirth, resummon a new version?

[Saulot]

Wouldn't the inherent act of transformation no longer make it the creature it was?

Kristoffer O said:
But that is not a bug. All prophets that have returned from the dead are considered more powerful

WAD

By the way, this pleases me greatly.

[BesucherXia]

Hmmm...
Can we make a water queen a prophet, then sacrifice it and summon it again. After that we will get a nature H3 priest, which can be proclaimed prophet again?