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Old April 19th, 2002, 10:03 AM
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Default Re: quick Q on population growth

Q related to both population AND proportions

I want to change the 'weight' settings for population so that a cargo hold I can only carry 3 million colonists, not 30 million (I realise that this will screw up the cargo hold ability of the rock colony module)

anyone know how I do that?
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Hello Growltigga,

line 280 in the settings.txt states Population Mass := 5, looks to me that this says 1M people take up 5 ktons of Cargo (the colony-module has 20ktons of cargo and can hold 4M people).

So try to set the value to 50 and you should be fine. As far as I can tell the change should not affect anything else.

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Old April 19th, 2002, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: quick Q on population growth

brilliant, cheers Vulture B

thinking about it, after making the population a bit less mobile, I might change the cargo component of the colony module to 50kt so that it at least can still carry 3 million population. It also means that as my small transports can only carry 30 million people instead of 300 million, I will be able to save the racial points I have piled into reproduction

bugger, have just realised that I will need to pile those points into reducing maintenance to deal with all the additional transports I will need to ship population about

thinking again, the population limit for planets is not based on weight is it? if it is, then by changing the weight, I will be reducing the planetary limitations by a factor of ten!!

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Default Re: quick Q on population growth

Hello again,

for the max population per planet, the "mass change" takes no effect. In the planetsize.txt you have the max population per planet set in numbers.

Another point to pay atention to:
line 66 of the settings.txt says "Population Required to Operate One Facility := 50" so either build your facilities very slow or decrease this value.

Sending 3M people to one colony with a hypothetial growthrate of 20% and it takes you 16 turns or years (not quite sure) to have the first facility running

looks like you are into a long game

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Vult, even better point

I would need to reduce that figure or ship in stacks of population to make any colony worth anything!

Hmmm, I was kind of going for a mini-Starfire related realism mod (eg I have reduced the production rate of shipyards) - I will have to think this through a lot better
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Default Re: quick Q on population growth

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line 66 of the settings.txt says "Population Required to Operate One Facility := 50"



This setting has never functioned. The popularly accepted theory is that it's one of those toys MM hasn't gotten around to implementing just yet.

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Default Re: quick Q on population growth

Actually, they did use the "population to operate each facility" setting in pre-release of standard SEIV. But the original beta testers found it too annoying, so they disabled it.

Tigga - have you looked at PvK's Proportions mod? Sounds like you're trying to do something similar, but maybe less radical...

Edit: Reread your post, and you mentioned proportions specifically. Oh well, the question still stands, are you basically attempting to tone down PvK's mod for your own game?

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