RAND REDUX - ASHDOD WINS (Calmon)

calmon · #1 June 7th, 2008, 09:34 AM

Ano bumped the old thread, i think he's also interested.

Whats up with Jurri?

Wasn't it ironhawk who was late to join in the last game and we promised to ask him before starting a new one? (i'm not sure it was RAND)

I would really like to see a big amount of experienced players in this game!

Zenzei · #2 June 7th, 2008, 09:57 AM

Is this game open to anyone or are the players already selected(the list in the OP)?

PashaDawg · #3 June 7th, 2008, 10:05 AM

@ Zenzei: The game is currently full, but I will put you on the waiting list, Zenzei, if that changes.

@ Calmon: Jurri is taking a break for now. Ano was originally going to play, but it's my understanding that he'd rather not play if the CB mod is used. I don't think Ironhawk likes RAND games (it was the Alexander game that he was late for).

Pasha

Zeldor · #4 June 7th, 2008, 10:11 AM

Yeah, just yeah! I just hope I get some decent nation that time, not Atlantis

Hmm... I would be really happy with some resource heavy nation for a change, never really played them.

PashaDawg · #5 June 7th, 2008, 10:15 AM

I am happy with any victory condition, because I am just hosting. We'll got with whatever the majority of players prefers, if there is a clear preference.

VP's in capitals is a good way to go, of course. Or, we could do a % of provinces with no VP's, etc. Whichever.

WraithLord · #6 June 7th, 2008, 04:27 PM

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PashaDawg said:
I am happy with any victory condition, because I am just hosting. We'll got with whatever the majority of players prefers, if there is a clear preference.

VP's in capitals is a good way to go, of course. Or, we could do a % of provinces with no VP's, etc. Whichever.

Would something between 60%-70% controlled provinces work?

quantum_mechani · #7 June 7th, 2008, 04:41 PM

I think that might result in just a different kind of teleport grab. Capital only VPs have their flaws, but I think they are probably still the most reasonable way to go.

EDIT: I also think 160 provinces is fine for 13 players, so I hope we do end up using Rim of Darkness.

Zenzei · #8 June 7th, 2008, 10:22 AM

@Pasha: Okay

Micah · #9 June 7th, 2008, 04:22 PM

I'm gonna put in a vote for Cap-VPs. They're important enough provinces that doming them isn't unreasonable once it's late enough in the game where a teleport strike force could happen, and they'll come with a fort unless someone goes crazy with the whole scorched earth thing. Unforted VPs just beg for aerial assault.

A province % would also be fine, though I'd prefer to see a "take and hold for 3 turns" condition with a reasonable % instead of having to set the % artificially high to make a teleport scenario impractical. Obviously this means there would have to be some hand-counting going on since the game ends immediately otherwise.

I like the cap idea best though, it's more fun having actually important provinces to protect instead of just getting hit by 10 ghost riders and teleporting raiders a turn as the whole world tries to keep your prov count down late game =)

calmon · #10 June 7th, 2008, 10:00 AM

I really like the old victory condition. 50% of the capital only VPs. I mean the game was far away for being too long and non-fortified VPs can really lead to a frustrating teleport/cloud trapeze attack win. Do you remember our last RAND game? Fomoria (Micah) had won this far earlier by just sending his blessed trapezing giants to any unprotected VP.
Sure he won anyway but it was decided in the endgame.
This game is without fomoria but pythium/marignon angels or just stupid beaming tartarians aren't much better!

And last but not least... thanks for hosting pasha. You do a really great job!