Without a Dom4, I'd *really* like to see the Dom3 code become public domain

[HoneyBadger]

I think this thread is going in an entirely unfortunate direction.

Illwinter is a business, not a charity organization for wayward gamers, so, expecting them to give away the fine fruits of their hard labour is, in a word, insensitive. Especially around the holidays, which I'm sure profits from sales contribute directly to their enjoyment of-as well as the enjoyment of those they care about.

Does anyone wonder if Kristoffer or Johan have family to support? A mortgage? Taxes are high in Sweden, very high, as far as I've heard. They may not be in it for the money, but I'm sure the money is welcome, and they've earned it.

There are ways around it, anyhow.

[chrispedersen]

Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

I think this thread is going in an entirely unfortunate direction.

Illwinter is a business, not a charity organization for wayward gamers, so, expecting them to give away the fine fruits of their hard labour is, in a word, insensitive. Especially around the holidays, which I'm sure profits from sales contribute directly to their enjoyment of-as well as the enjoyment of those they care about.

Does anyone wonder if Kristoffer or Johan have family to support? A mortgage? Taxes are high in Sweden, very high, as far as I've heard. They may not be in it for the money, but I'm sure the money is welcome, and they've earned it.

There are ways around it, anyhow.

Honey,
I started all of this with the predication that I *want* the developers to continue to profit. I *fully* support them making as much money as they can.

I predicated all of this by saying - if they did not wish to do any further work; if they had no further interest ing the product.

Regarding Edi's comments:
Novel released dp into the public domain while retaining the Copyright to DataPerfect.

Allowing others to add *onto* your contributions ensures that your creation lives on. And various schemes would allow the authors to retain creative control.

But if anyone took this as stepping on the toes of the authors then I profoundly apologize. Quite the opposite.

I would definitely love to see the continue and expand.

[Edi]

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

Regarding Edi's comments:
Novel released dp into the public domain while retaining the Copyright to DataPerfect.

Allowing others to add *onto* your contributions ensures that your creation lives on. And various schemes would allow the authors to retain creative control.

But if anyone took this as stepping on the toes of the authors then I profoundly apologize. Quite the opposite.

I would definitely love to see the continue and expand.

There are various schemes to allow authors to retain control, yes. As far as I am concerned myself, most of those schemes are inadequate. Like I said, I was talking about what I personally would think in IW's position. someone else may have ideas more along the lines of yours. I don't take your comments as being stepping on anyone's toes, as we are having just a hypothetical discussion anyway.

As far as having others add to your creations so they can live on, I'm fully aware of that. The problem is that without involvement from the creator and good, involved and ironfisted quality control, there is a big risk that a lot of what will be churned out will be pure and utter crap and will dilute the franchise to worthlessness. One warning example is the way the Star Wars franchise has gone down the tubes since the early 1990s. You'd have to pay me to read that stuff, especially the stuff that has come out since Karen Traviss essentially hijacked the Clone Wars timeline and later turned the post New Jedi Order stuff to another anti-Jedi Mandalorian crusade. The movies are great, some of the post-movie and pre-movie books are great and most of the books are utter shyte.

I have some ambitions of writing stuff of my own at some point, so I'm viewing this from that perspective.