Madness - 24 players, MA+LA, CBM 1.4 (running)

[archaeolept]

i think your analysis is faulty. you can't compare getting dominion deaths in test games against the AI and against human opponents. the AI is stupid, and might not preach, and often has horrendous dominion scores - how did you determine the AI had dom 7?

also, as a minor note, the second wound was chest wound, not crippled, which is very minor for a zero enc pretender.


anyways, I personally have no problems w/ you staling out - my income is currently about 10% that of the leaders'

fight on though if you wish - i'm of course game.

edit: MA Mictlan is proud to point out that they doubled the size of their empire last turn! who else amongst you can say the same!11

[chrispedersen]

Damn...

A few points arch might be right that it was a chest wound - I don't have the turn result from turn 2, yet overall what I said was roughly accurate. The combat results (crippled chest wound) in the first few hits was fairly unlucky (especially against pd chaff). And I do believe I got a NHW .. but if it was later..mea culpa.

Second.. I would never *scam out* the position. I never have. I would tell (whomever expressed interest) the actual facts.

Third, As I had already said to you I wasn't continueing if I lost, I really think my wording actually reflected the available options. However, arch if you would rather I said 'my opponent has expressed a preference that I resign rather than sub the position out' I accept that.

Likewise, I did say I was sending a force to get there in two turns. That was the plan. Casualties made it not work. I don't think its appropriate to call that a lie either. I'm a pretender, what I project to happen doesn't necessarily come true.

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Regarding the strategy, I simulated it many many times, both versus myself, and against AI's.

I wasn't saying that the average AI Dom was a 7. I was saying that I expected good results against players, as the average bless in MP seems to be around a 7. Plugging that into the formulas for dominion spread, and empirical evidence suggested reasonable prospects of success.
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I really do not want to ignite a fire storm. Nor do I want to impugn arch in any fashion... he has been the model of good sportsmanship.

Hell, I can only hope if someone dropped a dragon on me on turn two, that I'd respond as graciously. Again, it was only because I was getting a lot of questions (and some quite unkind remarks) that I wanted to explain a little bit about the strategy, and why dropping was a reasonable course of action.

Best to all

By the way.. I *am* having a problem with the server. I have tried on multiple occassions now to submit a turn, and it continues to reject the turn saying wrong turn number. The last time, for turn 7. I have restarted the turn from scratch, deleted the .2h file.. and still no luck.

[JimMorrison]

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

Second.. I would never *scam out* the position. I never have. I would tell (whomever expressed interest) the actual facts.

Well, to be fair, when I took over Gath for you in Kingmaker, after I PMed you for info on the build and intended strat (I had never even tried Gath before), my reply was from Zeldor or Xietor (can't remember who was admin at the start), asking for my email for the position. I never got the info..... And when I subbed Niefelheim in World In Crisis, you let the game stale again rather than just buying a Jarl and submitting as I asked, and when I saw the scales (3 Drain, weee!), lack of research, low gold income, and almost nonexistent gem income, well I didn't want to play them.


But, I still like you loads better than Archaeolept, who likes to lash out at people who try to give encouragement.

Oh and BTW Arch, be happy there are forum rules that I am inclined to follow, even if you like to dance around them with your infantile allusions, "at least I'm not a retard". Very smooth.