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Old April 6th, 2009, 08:19 AM
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Default Re: artillery cluster ammo

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Many moderne army have start to remove cluster ammo for political, moral () reasons but in reality it's becauses this hold weapons systems are uneffective against modern vehicle and too dangerous for fighting agains guerilla or urban area (close quarter fight, civilians, unexploded ammo, ...)
May I suggest watching some video of it working the chances of not getting a hit are remote if it lands near the target slow mo shows target vanish in a cloud of explosions.
On the power may have caused ammo blow out but one I saw went off directly above the tank & blew the turret at least 20 feet in the air.
They stop using them unless we have a real war of course because they leave unexploded munitions behind for the unwary civilian to trigger by jumping in the air & spreading themselves in all directions, nothing to do with effectivness.
I have watch a lot of video and yes this weapons are devastating against the targets. If you look closer you could identifie this targets as 1970/1980 era APC or tanks. THe officials penetration value for M77 dual purpose sub munition (MLRS and cagro shell)is 60 mm RHA with a heat warhead and 130 mm for the BONUS shell EFP.
Yes it's enought to obliterate an old T55 but T90, Abrahm, Leo2, ect will probably just need severe repaint (and lot of beer for the crew morale ).
Of course you could have some lucky hits (or unlucky if your the target) but 60 for the HE penetration was looking a little bit too high for me (it's the HE pen of a 1000lb JDAM ).
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