Dug In/Enchrenched Units Effect.

Skirmisher · #1 May 26th, 2009, 06:02 PM

Well I confirmed it, though I didn't beleive it. Ran a little test.

So If I just go ahead and place the fox holes, when the scenario actualy starts, the units used to make them won't be dug In anymore.

Imp · #2 May 26th, 2009, 08:29 PM

Are you sure? They will dig foxholes in their deploy hexes & be in them, you can occupy any foxhole trench but units dig them in start hexes. The likes of foxholes to take cover in during air arty strikes or whatever have to be represented with trenches.
So for a base for instance even if it has no defensive trenches could have air raid trenches.

Skirmisher · #3 May 26th, 2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Imp

Are you sure? They will dig foxholes in their deploy hexes & be in them, you can occupy any foxhole trench but units dig them in start hexes.

According to the test scenario I have here, the unit maintains it's Dug In status but once you move the unit it goes away.

The ONLY foxholes present are the ones I made in ASSUALT mode.

The scenario is a meeting engagement.

Imp · #4 May 27th, 2009, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Skirmisher

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Originally Posted by Imp

Are you sure? They will dig foxholes in their deploy hexes & be in them, you can occupy any foxhole trench but units dig them in start hexes.

According to the test scenario I have here, the unit maintains it's Dug In status but once you move the unit it goes away.

The ONLY foxholes present are the ones I made in ASSUALT mode.

The scenario is a meeting engagement.

Suggest you test it before progress any further by playing turn 1 as is to see where the foxholes actually are

Skirmisher · #5 May 27th, 2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Imp

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Originally Posted by Skirmisher

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Originally Posted by Imp

Are you sure? They will dig foxholes in their deploy hexes & be in them, you can occupy any foxhole trench but units dig them in start hexes.

According to the test scenario I have here, the unit maintains it's Dug In status but once you move the unit it goes away.

The ONLY foxholes present are the ones I made in ASSUALT mode.

The scenario is a meeting engagement.

Suggest you test it before progress any further by playing turn 1 as is to see where the foxholes actually are

The Units DO NOT make new foxholes on scenario start. And when I test it in the context of the campaign,the units are lined up along the back map wall just like they are supposed to be.
And they are not even dug in status. ANY unit can use the foxholes and become Dug In. Woot! Thats what I wanted in the first place. Keep in mind you can only create foxholes in Assualt mode. This battle is a meeting engagement.

Suhiir · #6 May 27th, 2009, 11:44 AM

I seem to recall once trying an experiment where I bought some units, deployed them, set to assault mode so they dug in, then saved the map - with foxholes.
Then reloaded the map and the foxholes were still present.

Might be worth an experiment for someone with more free time then I have at present.

Imp · #7 May 27th, 2009, 12:36 PM

Well Skirmisher looks like you have found something that might be handy switching back to engagement probably locks the foxholes or as Suhiir said the act of saving the map probably did it. You can have foxholes for them to head to but start them in the mess having tea & biscuits, good call.

Mobhack · #8 May 27th, 2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Suhiir

I seem to recall once trying an experiment where I bought some units, deployed them, set to assault mode so they dug in, then saved the map - with foxholes.
Then reloaded the map and the foxholes were still present.

Might be worth an experiment for someone with more free time then I have at present.

Standard scenario design trick since SP came out, to get assault/defence items in a non-assault scenario. Nothing new.

See the GG, "Scenario Editor" about para 5, beginning "And we may as well take some time.."

Andy