Need to kill a golem...

Executor · #1 June 26th, 2009, 03:51 PM

However looking at the picture again I notice that he doesn't even have gems for returning. Magic duel the bastard!

Why hydra armor on a lifeless unit?

vfb · #2 June 26th, 2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Executor

However looking at the picture again I notice that he doesn't even have gems for returning. Magic duel the bastard!

Why hydra armor on a lifeless unit?

Pearls are to be carried separately on a scout heading into the province the same month, so your opponent deploys his counter to the province and the Golems unexpectedly return. But to do this really properly you have to forget to xfer the pearls from the scout onto the Golem.

Redeyes · #3 June 26th, 2009, 06:32 PM

If more than one mage is going to make him cast returning, a single air mage with a staff of storms set to summoning air elementals/living cloud would do.

He is entirely defenseless against the AN attack of an air elemental and with his low attack roll wouldn't be able to take out even one per turn.

Go for living cloud (perhaps with a fairy queen) if you suspect a large amount of PD in the province - but if there's PD, he would return away just from one mage.

Btb, did you create the Golem this golem on a special testmap or is there some other reason he is in the hall of fame without any experience?

Illuminated One · #4 June 26th, 2009, 06:40 PM

If you don't have gems with you for whatever reason, you can also teleport someone in with a crystal matrix scripted to cast returning. Script the golem to cast communion slave and he will be carried away. This also works if you want to evacuate large communions.

Executor · #5 June 26th, 2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminated One

If you don't have gems with you for whatever reason, you can also teleport someone in with a crystal matrix scripted to cast returning. Script the golem to cast communion slave and he will be carried away. This also works if you want to evacuate large communions.

You'd have to watch which mage you send and who plays first, the golem or the mage as to not screw yourself.

And again, the Golem might retreat to a single mage holding an item, depends what mage so need to be tested. Illusioninst with a SoS no, Cealum Seraph with a SoS yes. Tricky tricky tricky

Golems don't get experience.

Water elementals are best against tartarinas from my experience, they have 4 crush attacks, AP or AN, can't remember but very high strength.

WraithLord · #6 June 26th, 2009, 07:48 PM

Crush is AP IIRC. Don't forget to quicken them elementals if you can (and it makes sense you should be under most circumstances).

Viajero · #7 June 27th, 2009, 04:31 AM

Thanks for your replays so far guys but I am getting mnore confused. Ive read some replies that suggest ways for the golem to escape, but please remember I am the one trying to defeat him! in any case if the golem escapes and teleports back that would be a partial victory for me as he can not rush my backyard provinces with him anymore.

1- Some posts seem to suggest that the golem AI somehow will decide on its own to cast Returning depending on the number of mages I send to attack the golem? Is my understanding correct? can this happen? I guess for this to happen the golem has to have gems first anyways, and unless my enemy has scripted the golem with returning sometime in the first 5 turns only the AI can decide when after that 5th turn no?, so in theory I would have 5 turns (if my opponent has not scripted it) to kill him.

2- If I teleport mages and have them cast Magic Duel, only the inherent mage base level counts for Magic Duel, i.e. no items that boost S should help any party, correct?

3- If I teleport or cloud trapeze more than 1 mage there, will I see a battle where all mages are present afterwards or will we have separate mage battles, one by one?

4- By the way, will the battles described above in 3, be considered as "Magic Battles" following Rituals casting, as per page 71 in the manual, where the order of events in a turn are explained? i.e. this battles would happen before normal movement?

MaxWilson · #8 June 29th, 2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vfb

Pearls are to be carried separately on a scout heading into the province the same month, so your opponent deploys his counter to the province and the Golems unexpectedly return. But to do this really properly you have to forget to xfer the pearls from the scout onto the Golem.

My, what a witty fellow you are.

-Max