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 They were intended to be air dropable. 
I know they've done tests dumping them out of aircraft but to the best of my knowledge it's never been done outside of the tests. 
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 Off topic but always wondered how they get the crane out once they have built the building round it, is this the solution?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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