Wish-List for Dominions 4

[Belac]

I'd like to see an Alchemical Rendering action. Take a magic item and destroy it, recovering some fraction of the gems it took to create it (50%? With an item that improves the percentage to 75%? And an Artifact that does this when it kills a magic-item-using enemy?)

[nordlys]

Originally Posted by John_Madlock

And prophet or priest may cast Smite, bless etc. but God can't. This is unrealistic too.

A priest uses his own faith to channel a god's power to perform miracles. A god himself lacks that kind of faith, being aware of a bigger picture.

Even a wish cannot be used to remove curses, I think. And a wish is something that should be able to undo absolutely anything, from afflictions to horror marks.

[Gandalf Parker]

Also keep in mind that altho we often refer to it incorrectly, it is NOT a god. Its a "pretender". A powerful individual but a wannabe god who will ascend IF he can get enough people to follow him. So priests gain faith by belief but the pretender has to wait for that kindof power.

[Bananadine]

Yeah, I always figure that there'd be a period of consolidation after a god defeats the other would-be gods, and maybe then horror marks and such would be dealt with--or maybe not. Possibilities are open, because that period isn't represented by the game.

[Gregstrom]

Also, why should curses/horror marks be reversible? IIRC, in Greek mythology once the Furies had marked you for a fall even Zeus had no say in the matter.

In flavour terms, it has always seemed to me that Horrors are from somewhere outside the Pantokrator's sphere of influence. If that is his case, why should any mere mages or pretenders be able to have any say over what they do (beyond bribing them to put their attentions in a certain direction, that is)?

[nordlys]

Correct, but if we can "wish" even for doom horrors themselves and they can't do anything but pop up (whether for good or for ill, that's another story), a plain beacon for horrors should be trivial to deal with by means of "wishing". I am not asking for any lesser means, but a "wish" is thematically ought to be an ultimate healing resource, able to deal with curses, afflictions, marks, insanity, old age, whatever.

Point about Furies taken, but we're speaking of curses given away left and right by lousy S1 shamans, not by The Kindly Ones Somebody's got to eventually have found a way to deal with something as common a nuisance, and unlike horrors, it doesn't even come from the great lovecraftian beyond where basic rules of the Creation cease to function.

[BigDaddy]

I think you should be able to wish for traits, such as trample, immortal, fire resistance, etc...

[Burnsaber]

Originally Posted by nordlys

I am not asking for any lesser means, but a "wish" is thematically ought to be an ultimate healing resource, able to deal with curses, afflictions, marks, insanity, old age, whatever.

Originally Posted by BigDaddy

I think you should be able to wish for traits, such as trample, immortal, fire resistance, etc...

Or you know, you could just wish for a Chayot, Seraph or one of those big Lanka demons (Rudra, Rudara?) and get a new fresh SC, that's likely better than the old one.

Wish is so expensive that you will go for the strongest option, adding a buch of commands that are sub-optimal would be kind of moot.

[thejeff]

Well if wish cleared horror marks, it might well be worth it for a pretender, who's in danger of dropping into the Horror mark Death Spiral.

Especially if he's your only Wish caster, without empowering one of those Wished up SCs. And even that might not give you the path combinations you'd designed the pretender for.

[nordlys]

Wishing for "death" or for one of doom horrors is not particularly optimal either, but these options are present.

Besides, SP is not about minmaxing cost-effectiveness, it's about exploring and experimenting.