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Old March 19th, 2010, 12:38 PM

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Yeah, makes them useless in combat, but still good for research/rituals.

In CBM, Transformation is better, though the amulet is still cheaper and leaves you with full slots. Transformation is kind of random. Can't it kill the mage? In vanilla, the amulet is much cheaper and available much earlier.
And of course it can be used on any mages, not just N. Probably works better on expensive human mages than on Pan though. Or, as Burnsaber pointed out, those with minimal slots.
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Lore masters, if you can find them, could really use it.
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Lore masters, if you can find them, could really use it.
They'd lose their researchbonus, though.
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You lose research bonus with transformation too then?
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You lose research bonus with transformation too then?
Yeah. Researchbonus is an ability of a unit, just like flying, sacred and the like.
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You lose research bonus with transformation too then?
Yes, since it is an intrinsic property of the monster type, as opposed to a property of the individual unit (which is what the realized magic picks are).
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Default Re: werewolfing item..

interesting. so by extension units that get a research penalty
(shinuyama, machaka, Yomi) among others .. could reverse their research penalties.....interesting.

Hmmm.. theoretically you could also use it to fix old age problems...
I wonder what unit has the biggest research penalty....
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I wonder what unit has the biggest research penalty....
That would be Dai Oni, with -5 (per Edi's DB.)
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