Mendeha

[Isokron]

Originally Posted by Gregstrom

They are. Also: Mandeha darkness is unusual in that it isn't dispelled by Solar Brilliance, and in fact appears to prevent Solar Brilliance being cast.

Are you sure about this, I have seen it dispelled although that might have been due to "forbidden light" or what the +2f2s artifact is called.

[Gregstrom]

I *was* sure about it... Forbidden Light would be okay to overwrite it - I think the Solar Brilliance thing is to fit in with the flavour text. Come to think of it, it'd be sensible if the same effect applied in cave fortresses.

[Sensori]

Originally Posted by lch

You could say that Mandela is turning the world around him black, but then you're probably going to get strange looks. Especially when you're asking for possible counters to that afterwards.

The easiest counter for a Mandela daemon army is to throw Mandela in jail, which has a similar effect as banishing someone to Kokytos or Inferno. Only problem is that later on, when he gets out of his imprisonment, he will have be in HoF and is likely to become a president and then your nation's bound to be changed in ways you won't like!

In other words, the only way to defeat a Mandela is to win before he gets out of jail!

[militarist]

"By decreasing attack and defense, it slows combat down,"

-that's not very clear. Decreasing attack slows fight down, but decreasing defense definitely should speed up.

[chrispedersen]

Well it was a fairly long post.

I should really say it increases the importances the importance of the DRN, decreases the importance of thugs, increases the importance of chaff, increases the importance of spellcasting, GREATLY increases the importance of undead, demons, etc.

[Baneslave]

Darkness decreases the difference between elite and normal troops.

14 -> 7
10 -> 5

Difference falls from 4 to 2, making it much more manageable. Thus superior numbers trumps quality in darkness.

[thejeff]

True, but protection and strength don't change.
And most thugs rely on protection, magical defenses and area effect attacks.

So elite troops get weaker, but heavies stay strong and many thugs aren't really affected.

[Kheldron]

Fire brand, demon whip, unquenched sword, flambeau, sword of justice, infernal sword and flame helmet should all give darkvision 25 or 50 imho

[chrispedersen]

Why? Demons can see in the dark. Banefire only shows to darkvision =)

[Baneslave]

Originally Posted by Kheldron

Fire brand, demon whip, unquenched sword, flambeau, sword of justice, infernal sword and flame helmet should all give darkvision 25 or 50 imho

Only for melee purposes and for your opponents as well, then.