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Old June 14th, 2010, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Endgame Diversity Mod - Lategame summons, released at last!

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IMO even with more hp and def boost, the new Rocs are still overshadowed by shishi as raiders and anti-thugs. Basically I can't find any way to use them effectively. How about give them #onebattlespell "Storm"? It's very thematic and will make them actually different from other endgame summons.

Another choose is giving them Wrathful Skies and moving the spell to conj8, I personally perfer it to previous one because it's very cool for such an splendid creature

Edit: Ninjaed by Sajuuk.
I think you are confusing the Roc with the Thunderbird.
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Default Re: Endgame Diversity Mod - Lategame summons, released at last!

Actually I liked Dimaz's suggestion.

Squirrel, the roc is easily worth more than 5A :P Even if for NO other reason, wall shakers require a3, and give 15 less siege bonus than the current roc. Sure, that's a bit less with a hammer, but it would still be over 20A for the same amount of siege bonus. And wall shakers don't have nearly the mobility or in battle utility that a roc does. I would much rather use a roc for sieging than a gate cleaver or a wall shaker, because it is less expensive for the amount of siege bonus it supplies.

We really shouldn't be comparing Rocs to Tartarians anyway... Rocs are a conj 6 summon, they clearly are not supposed to be equivalent. It's the Asynja that need to be compared to them, and personally I don't think Asynja are really tartarian level.
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