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August 3rd, 2010, 10:18 PM
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Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
I do think, next time we do an all-vets game, that we should do wrap-around, or start in a circle around the edge, or something.
The all-veteran makeup of the game magnifies the unfairness of starting in the middle - in a mixed-and-matched game, veterans in the middle will have more neighbors, but more choices of "soft targets" to compensate (admittedly, newbies in the middle are completely screwed.)
In an all-vets game, starting in the middle has zero upside.
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August 4th, 2010, 12:28 AM
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Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
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Originally Posted by DrPraetorious
I do think, next time we do an all-vets game, that we should do wrap-around, or start in a circle around the edge, or something.
The all-veteran makeup of the game magnifies the unfairness of starting in the middle - in a mixed-and-matched game, veterans in the middle will have more neighbors, but more choices of "soft targets" to compensate (admittedly, newbies in the middle are completely screwed.)
In an all-vets game, starting in the middle has zero upside.
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Definitely agree in the wrap-around part. My position is so bad...
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August 4th, 2010, 01:02 AM
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Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
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Originally Posted by Squirrelloid
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Originally Posted by DrPraetorious
I do think, next time we do an all-vets game, that we should do wrap-around, or start in a circle around the edge, or something.
The all-veteran makeup of the game magnifies the unfairness of starting in the middle - in a mixed-and-matched game, veterans in the middle will have more neighbors, but more choices of "soft targets" to compensate (admittedly, newbies in the middle are completely screwed.)
In an all-vets game, starting in the middle has zero upside.
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Definitely agree in the wrap-around part. My position is so bad...
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Yes, I think wraparound is a good suggestion for the next vet game. I admit I do feel sorry for Baalz, after hearing his backstory, and I understand his frustration. Although I still think that this was certainly not the best way to handle the situation.
I am also thinking about having all players for the next veterans-only game I will be orginizing (if I will be orginizing it at all) to swear on the blood of their firstborns that they will *not* quit the game no matter what. At least not until they have 1 province left and no army to harm an enemy. Seriously, the upside of getting dogpiled and steamrolled is that you don't have to spend much time on the turns, since your options are shrinking quickly. As Baalz has explained well in his good players pledge.
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