Polish OOB 5.5

[Pibwl]

Fighter-bombers - the rest

Originally Posted by Pibwl

We could also add a cheap variant of Lim-6bis, with 32 rockets only (and drop tanks), without bombs.

- It would fit well instead of unit 133 or 134. Specs of #133 are OK for this purpose (apart from rockets), but used in 1964-1992, radio 90.
I think it doesn't make much sense to convert #134 to Lim-6M, differing from Lim-6bis in 3 guns 23mm instead of 1x37 and 2x23, used from 1971.

147 Su-7B (4 napalm bombs) - should be renamed Su-7BM or BKL, available until 6/90

Poland used only BM and BKL variants - both little differed in game terms, but BM were delivered earlier (1964). From 9/71, six-hardpoint variants started to replace four-hardpoint (in both models). I usually name 6-hardpoint model BKL.

149 Su-7B (2x 500kg bombs) - should be renamed Su-7BM, introduced from 6/64, withdrawn 6/90 (now 1/61-12/99). It could carry even 4x 500kg bombs without drop tanks (now it has only 2, like lighter MiG-21) (in case of war, planes with such maximum payload would also appear, on close range missions)

150 Su-7B (96 rockets 57mm - 6x16) - should be renamed Su-7BKL, used from 9/71 until 6/90.

Options worth to be created:
- Su-7BM with 64 rockets 57mm (4x16), from 6/64 until some 1975 (or 8/71, if we'd want to draw a clear line)
- Su-7BKL with 4 or 6 rockets S-24 (mentioned before, to be created), from 9/71 until 6/90 (configuration with 6 rockets is seen on photo)
- possibly Su-7BKL with 6 bombs 250 kg (from 9/71 until 6/90).

151 Su-7B (2 cluster bombs) - it should be renamed Su-7BKL, used until 6/90.
In addition to 2 bombs, it could carry at least 32 rockets S-5 (2x16).


152 Su-20MK (4 cluster bombs) - name was just Su-20 (Su-17MK was Russian designation). Used in 5/74-2/97 (now 1/74-12/98). In addition to bombs, it could carry 64 rockets 57mm (without drop tanks)

Possible options to be created:
- Su-20 with 10 x 250 kg bombs.
- Su-20 with 4 x 500 kg bombs (in case we haven't made Su-7 with 4x500 kg)
- Su-20 with 128 x 57mm rockets (4x32) (maximum payload was probably 192 rockets - 6x32)

They could replace #558, 559 MiG-23 (with Su-20 icon anyway)


153 Su-22M-4 (2xKh-25) - used in Poland only from 1984 until 120 (now 1/74-12/100).
All Su-22s should have laser RF. Since that date, Su-22M4s are basic Polish strike aircraft, so they should have generally radio=0. By the way, better way of writing name in Polish sources is "Su-22M4".

Apart from 2 Kh-25 missiles, it can carry at least 40 x 80mm rockets in addition (weapon #203) or 2 bombs 500 kg (not a maximum payload - with drop tanks).
A possible configuration seen on photos is 4 missiles Kh-25.

Other configurations, that should be added:
- 6 bombs 500 kg (maximum 8 x 500kg)
- 6 rockets S-24
- 80 rockets 80mm S-8 (4x20)

154 Su-22M-4 (2xKh23) - Kh-23 missiles weren't used in Poland at all. Su-22M4 can carry two heavier Kh-29 Kedge instead (#208 in Russian oob), and 40 x 80mm rockets or 2 bombs 250 kg in addition. Available from 1/84 as well.

155 Su-7B (6xPB-250) - it should be renamed Su-7BKL and used until 6/90.

156 Su-22M-4 (9xPB-250) - used from 1984 until 120.

157 Su-22M-4 (40 rockets S-8, 2 napalm bombs) - used as above.


585 MiG-29M (SEAD) - no early MiG-29 can carry air-to-ground missiles. Polish ones definitely don't carry any - to be removed.

The only Polish SEAD aircraft (before F-16) should be Su-22M4 armed with 2 Kh-25MP missiles (up to 4) and 2 bombs or 40x 80mm rockets.
Weapon 215 Kh-27 Kegler (not used in Poland) should be renamed to Kh-25MP - I think, data would be the same (it was the same family of missiles).
It would need date change in formation 155.

952 Yak 9M - as I wrote before, wrong cannon armament and shouldn't carry rockets - redundant unit IMO (Soviet fighters in 1941-43 were often fit to carry rockets, but from around 1944, newer versions of fighters aren't credited with such capability in Russian sources).

As for now, I leave F-16s undisturbed. I wish it was Gripen by the way...

To be added:
Avia B-33 - like Il-10, but armed with 4 x VYa-23 guns, from 1/54 until 1959 (armament: 4 x RS-132 rockets and 2 bombs 100 kg).

Regards
Michal