Things we'd like to see in the next patch

geoschmo · #1 August 30th, 2002, 05:37 PM

You can give a resupply facility a negative amount of resource production. It does work. It's like maintenance for facilities. There owuld be a couple of wierd things though. If you can get past them though it will approximate what you are wanting I guess.

First of all, it would cost you resources every turn the resupply facility is in operation, not just when ships are refueling. And it wouldn't cost you any more to refuel a bunch of ships than it would to refuel one, so it wouldn't be a true "resources to supply" converter.

Secondly in a regular infinite resource game it would be cheaper to put a resupply depot on a low resource world than on a high resources one. Just as a resource extractor produces less on a low resource world, the negative production on the facility would be factored by the value of the planet. On a planet with all zeros it would be free to operate.

Thirdly in a limited resource game, the facility would actually improve the value of the planet it was on, just like a value improvement plant. But it would work on a fixed rate instead of a percentage like a value improvement plant does.

Geoschmo

Krsqk · #2 August 30th, 2002, 07:00 PM

You could give it the Solar Resource Generation ability with a negative number--but then binary and trinary star systems pay more.

DirectorTsaarx · #3 August 30th, 2002, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
You can give a resupply facility a negative amount of resource production. It does work. It's like maintenance for facilities. There owuld be a couple of wierd things though. If you can get past them though it will approximate what you are wanting I guess.

First of all, it would cost you resources every turn the resupply facility is in operation, not just when ships are refueling. And it wouldn't cost you any more to refuel a bunch of ships than it would to refuel one, so it wouldn't be a true "resources to supply" converter.

Secondly in a regular infinite resource game it would be cheaper to put a resupply depot on a low resource world than on a high resources one. Just as a resource extractor produces less on a low resource world, the negative production on the facility would be factored by the value of the planet. On a planet with all zeros it would be free to operate.

Thirdly in a limited resource game, the facility would actually improve the value of the planet it was on, just like a value improvement plant. But it would work on a fixed rate instead of a percentage like a value improvement plant does.

Geoschmo

I'd never even considered modding the current game to include paying for supplies... sounds like my initial thought holds true, that it's fairly useless unless resupply depots are changed to produce limited amounts of supply. Which isn't likely to happen as a patch for SE4; but maybe for SE5 (which, if all the way-out ideas on the forum as a whole are implemented, could really be micromanagement hell... but we'd probably all still love it

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HEMAN · #4 August 30th, 2002, 11:15 PM

What i would like to see in the next patch is: (Print out) feature, when i finished setting up a game i would like to see everything on(setup) related to this. this way after playing 500 turns in a certain game, my memory is kinda Blank.

Ferengi Rules of Acquisition #97 Enough...is never enough.

Elowan · #5 August 31st, 2002, 12:33 AM

We all know (most of us - that is) by now -- that SE IV can be a micro-management nightmare.

One of those nightmares was upgrading a facility on a zillion planets. This is a breeze if you click on the Planet icon (upper left) and then click on Upgrade Facilities. Yahoo!

This doesn't help - though - for those inevitable 'lost' planets whom you (the emperor or whatever) has neglected to fill the build queue. Now you have to wade through a zillion planets to find the ones that have some slots open.

If there's a way of showing just the 'open-slot' planets -- I haven't found it yet. But wouldn't it be nice if you could set the list so that only undeveloped or partially undeveloped planets would show up?

Works for me!

Captain Kwok · #6 August 31st, 2002, 05:52 AM

If you select the wrench (constuction queue menu) that lists all the planets - click on the heading "Construction Queue" - that will sort them by alphabetically order showing all the empty queues at the top.

tbontob · #7 September 1st, 2002, 01:36 AM

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Originally posted by HEMAN:
What i would like to see in the next patch is: (Print out) feature, when i finished setting up a game i would like to see everything on(setup) related to this. this way after playing 500 turns in a certain game, my memory is kinda Blank.

A print out would be a nice feature. Would also allow a person to more objectively compare the games he played.