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January 9th, 2001, 10:25 PM
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Re: Machine race
quote: Originally posted by Puke:
i wish there was a 'breathe any atmosphere' trait for about 4000 points
Yep, the silicoids will not live in the SEIV universe...
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January 10th, 2001, 08:16 PM
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Re: Machine race
I played around with the concept some more Last night. I am using 2000pts for the race. I took the worker trait, figure it represents the specialized robots used for extraction. Thought about the engineering trait instead, but wasn't sure about it.
I bought emotionless, but had to sell off some stats to make up the point difference. I took happiness down by 50%, they shouldn't need it being emotionless. I then decreased trade to make up the rest of the difference.
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January 10th, 2001, 08:51 PM
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Re: Machine race
I was wondering what was worthwhile about emotionless the other day and did a little testing. The description is a slight misleading.
It says something like that your population will not get angry or happy. What it leaves out that I saw in my testing wasthat your population appears to always be 'Jubilant' so you get the highest production bonus out of them. Also I tested with 50% and 150% happiness trait and did not see that it made a difference. So you can reduce the cost a bit by going to 50% happiness
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January 10th, 2001, 09:12 PM
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Re: Machine race
Isn't it cheating then to use a reduced happiness to pay for Emotionless? I may have to play around with some other values because it doesn't seem right.
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January 10th, 2001, 09:22 PM
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Re: Machine race
quote: Originally posted by HAL:
Isn't it cheating then to use a reduced happiness to pay for Emotionless? I may have to play around with some other values because it doesn't seem right.
That's probably it's so darn expensive. I wouldn't consider using it otherwise. Reducing Happiness to 50% will probably only save you about 1000 points (you get diminishing returns every 10% or so. So the returns from reduction of 70% - 50% are probably only a few hundred points. Ill have to check out what the total cost of Emotionless is after a 50% reduction, if it's around 2500 or so, it's probably a trait that may be worth taking.
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January 10th, 2001, 09:27 PM
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Re: Machine race
I think reducing happiness to 50% gave me back 750pts. I made up whatever the rest was by reducing trade.
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January 11th, 2001, 08:23 PM
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Re: Machine race
Does it impact enslaved races? It shouldn't, but you never know, it might.
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