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October 14th, 2002, 03:44 PM
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Re: Subjugation not working correctly in v1.78?
My score is almost 5 million while the Barbora States are at less than 1/4 of 1,250,000. I'm basing this off of the graph in comparisons.
I sent a treaty of subjugation to the Primean Federation (my empire) when I hopped into the controls of the Barbora State and the results came out the same. It really does seem to be a bug.
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October 14th, 2002, 03:53 PM
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Re: Subjugation not working correctly in v1.78?
Sorry, posted before I saw your Last post.
Anyway, it appears that it's either Malfador made it so that you could never subjugate neutral empires or this really is a bug. I tried sending a treaty from either side, and both ended up with the Primean Federation (the galaxy's dominant empire in terms of ships, resources and score) being subjugated to the Bobroba States.
[ October 14, 2002, 15:01: Message edited by: Sandstig ]
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October 14th, 2002, 04:11 PM
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Re: Subjugation not working correctly in v1.78?
No, I don't agree, or I am not seeing the same thing you are. What I am seeing is whoever offers the treaty ends up in the superior position in the treaty. And it has nothing to do with being a neutral or not.
If you aren't seeing the same thing I don't know what the difference is. I confirmed it in 1.78 and 1.49.
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October 14th, 2002, 04:13 PM
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Re: Subjugation not working correctly in v1.78?
Same thing with Protectorate also BTW.
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October 14th, 2002, 04:25 PM
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Re: Subjugation not working correctly in v1.78?
It must have been a bug. I counter-offered on their proposal for a Trade and Research Alliance with a Subjugation Treaty, they accepted, and now they're paying me tariffs. 
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October 16th, 2002, 02:49 AM
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Re: Subjugation not working correctly in v1.78?
Does the AI ever accept to subjugation or protectorate? i have beaten a computer controlled species to their Last 2 or 3 planets, with no fleet at all, and they still refuse. i control a sizeable portion of the map, command several large fleets and have ships orbiting their colonies waiting to take out the whole colony. what does it take for them to give in? or is it just that the AI can't accept?
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October 16th, 2002, 04:36 AM
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Re: Subjugation not working correctly in v1.78?
I am playing a solo game against computer AI's.
I have been successful in subjugating the Texrak Hegemony.
Edit: Since they "seem" to control only 1 system, I assume they are "neutral".
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