Blood Red FIGHT ON!)

[ghoul31]

Originally Posted by Baalz

So, we didn't specify victory conditions, but I'm in control of well over half the provinces - probably close to 75% of the unfortressed provinces. Pretty much everybody is just hiding in their castles waiting for me to storm them...sallying forth to slow me a bit but nothing resembling a credible offensive force anywhere. I don't really feel like meticulously storming every single castle left...does anybody have any plans of doing anything other than trying to slow how fast they're dying?

the only thing you are doing is taking over undefended provinces with sc's. You are aren't winning any real battles. Do you really think you are going to be able to take over the world with lizardmen?

[Baalz]

I've won tons of real battles. Don't mistake the fact that you are the last player I haven't sat on yet with a delusion that I'm not actually winning. Just look at the score graphs and use your head...I've been crushing Shin as they're the only nation with the research to theoretically do anything at all to me and destroying the ogres who had started setting up a significant blood economy. Eriu is locked in a corner without a hell of a lot of options, and to be frank you're just not a long term threat so I've been more or less ignoring you. My gold income is almost 3 times everyone else put together (12524 gold this turn) and the only reason I'm throwing lizard men around is because I'm not terribly motivated to spend 5 hours micro'ing the turns for a nation this size and just drowning everyone in bodies has been effective enough - it just doesn't matter if I lose a 1000 bodies here or there.

Most games that specify them have victory conditions well below what I've already accomplished here...are you honestly taking a position that you have a snowball's chance of doing anything other than being annoying to me?

[Aethyr]

As one of the "sat on" I concede that I can do nothing but prolong the enevitable--and barely at that.

We should congratulate Baalz and declare him the winner.

[rdonj]

And then he can write his nehekara guide

[Trumanator]

Originally Posted by rdonj

And then he can write his nehekara guide

Or add it to mine plx! I don't want mine to be overshadowed by teh ownage baalz guide

[Aethyr]

Originally Posted by Trumanator

Or add it to mine plx! I don't want mine to be overshadowed by teh ownage baalz guide

I think we need a guide on how to fight them.

[rdonj]

They are pretty potent, but I think this is the first mp game they've been in where they could potentially win. I don't think, as an outsider, I should probably talk about how to fight them, or I'd start theorycrafting with you. Certain things are pretty obvious go to spells against them, like wither bones... if you could get that early in a game against them, they'd be really hard-pressed to beat you.

[Gregstrom]

Certain things are pretty obvious go to spells against them, like wither bones... if you could get that early in a game against them, they'd be really hard-pressed to beat you.

They weren't. I should probably have attacked sooner, but the accuracy on Wither Bones isn't good enough to quickly and easily take out Tomb Scorpions.

[Aethyr]

I agree, but my impression is that you really need to catch them early; once they get rolling...they're a tough nut to crack.

[Gregstrom]

The way Baalz went, I needed to catch him before I actually had borders with him