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Old August 26th, 2008, 10:57 PM
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In my experience, missing a confrontation between two armies heading for each other only happens when one of them flies. One should be careful to observe the means by which an army moves. Sailing and flying may very well act differently then normal movement.
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In my experience, missing a confrontation between two armies heading for each other only happens when one of them flies. One should be careful to observe the means by which an army moves. Sailing and flying may very well act differently then normal movement.
That is not true. In a game I am playing, my SC with attacked an enemy's province, while his mage with some calvaries counterattacked. Both armies are regular foot movement type. They bypass each other and fought in their destinations respectively.

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Old August 26th, 2008, 11:26 PM
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That is not true. In a game I am playing, my SC with attacked an enemy's province, while his mage with some calvaries counterattacked. Both armies are regular foot movement type. They bypass each other and fought in their destinations respectively.
Well, I did start by saying "in my experience". I do however believe that flying increases the chance of a bypass. Size of respective armies may also play a roll and would explain the case you described.
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Old August 26th, 2008, 11:38 PM
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My experience is as follows:

Situation One:
A1-> B2 (player A in province 1 moving to province 2 owned by player B)
B2-> A1

Possible outcomes are a) battle in 1; b) battle in 2; c) both armies remain at their province; d) A end up in 2 and B end up in 1.

Antidotal evidence suggest that d) is very unlikely under normal circumstances. Virtually all (but may not be 100%) occurrence that I can remember have either one army having flight or stealth (but moving normally), or one army being very small.

Situation Two:
A1 -> B3
B2 -> A1

In my experience battles do sometimes occur at province 1. However, on those occasions that I can remember B has a castle at province 1. So it is possible that for movement purposes province 1 might still be considered to be owned by B (hence B moves before A). Nevertheless, I think a more likely answer is that movement order in this situation is random.
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My experience is as follows:

Situation One:
A1-> B2 (player A in province 1 moving to province 2 owned by player B)
B2-> A1

Possible outcomes are a) battle in 1; b) battle in 2; c) both armies remain at their province; d) A end up in 2 and B end up in 1.

Antidotal evidence suggest that d) is very unlikely under normal circumstances. Virtually all (but may not be 100%) occurrence that I can remember have either one army having flight or stealth (but moving normally), or one army being very small.

Situation Two:
A1 -> B3
B2 -> A1

In my experience battles do sometimes occur at province 1. However, on those occasions that I can remember B has a castle at province 1. So it is possible that for movement purposes province 1 might still be considered to be owned by B (hence B moves before A). Nevertheless, I think a more likely answer is that movement order in this situation is random.
Antidotal. I think you mean anecdotal. Other than that, the math is way too comlicated for me. All I know is: if an army moves away from an attacking army, they will not enage.
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Antidotal. I think you mean anecdotal.
You got me.

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All I know is: if an army moves away from an attacking army, they will not enage.
Situation Two would be an exception to what you know.
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Is it also possible in your situation Two, that a small force attacked 1 from 3 and that kept A from moving so the army from 2 also arrived and they all fought in 1?

There is (was?) also a rare bug that prevents movement between hostile provinces. That could add to the confusion.
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Is it also possible in your situation Two, that a small force attacked 1 from 3 and that kept A from moving so the army from 2 also arrived and they all fought in 1?
Good point. I guess it is possible although the second force would need to be very small or invisible to me to escape my attention at the time.
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So I was remembering right ... it is an obscure matter ....
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