Blood Vengeance 101 - Page 2

Gregstrom · #1 September 30th, 2008, 02:46 PM

I've a question that isn't in the top post:

If you cast the spell Blood Vengeance, is the +# value affected by the caster's Blood skill?

konming · #2 September 30th, 2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregstrom

I've a question that isn't in the top post:

If you cast the spell Blood Vengeance, is the +# value affected by the caster's Blood skill?

I wonder too. Also I know that blood vengeance will not protect against many secondary effects, like burn or poison, and I believe that it does not protect from fatigue damage.

Does it protect from paralyze? What about soul slay? Or enslavement?

Xietor · #3 September 30th, 2008, 06:36 PM

I know i just mind hunted a couple in Kingmaker. Either I passed the mr check or it does not work on death spells. It does not work on enslave either unless my mage passed the mr check on bv 2 about 7 times.

AreaOfEffect · #4 September 30th, 2008, 07:23 PM

I did some BV testing several weeks back, mostly to see how high I could get it.

-The blood vengeance spell does not stack with existing BV, instead the caster simply casts a different spell.

-The Flesh Ward actually grants a +2 bonus to BV. Those units without BV get only +1 because the first bonus is used in granting them the ability. This is consistent with how awe and fear stack.

-Paralyze damage does not trigger BV as far as I know.

JimMorrison · #5 September 30th, 2008, 08:58 PM

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-Paralyze damage does not trigger BV as far as I know.

Someone chain cast Paralyze on a Vastness of mine some time back. Out of a million casts, at least 2 stuck on the Vastness, and none of his casters got Paralyzed.

Who was that again?

AdmiralZhao · #6 September 30th, 2008, 08:06 PM

What about trampling? I've got some Angels of Fury, and my opponent has some elephants.

Xietor · #7 September 30th, 2008, 08:14 PM

I would say give it a go. What have you got to lose? They cannot do any worse than the harbinger. muhahahahahha.

Actually Admiral is a very very good player. I am just giving him a hard time. He has taken half my empire. I was surprised the awe on the harbinger seemed to have so little effect on the elephants as well.

AdmiralZhao · #8 September 30th, 2008, 08:38 PM

Heh, thank you for the kind words Xietor. I couldn't resist trying for your elephants; I hoped the combination of Awe + Fear + HeartSeeker would let the angel massacre the entire herd. Unfortunately, your Sleeper put a quick end to that Angel's career. I suppose the lesson here is to do a bit more scouting before sending your thugs off to face enemy armies.

AreaOfEffect · #9 October 1st, 2008, 12:57 PM

Thanks once again for bring up that painful memory. But yes, that is exactly how I know that paralyze doesn't bounce... yet mind blast does. Sigh...

Eh, I'm just kidding. It wasn't all that painful as I'm sure you had expected to win that battle by a much larger margin.

JimMorrison · #10 October 1st, 2008, 03:17 PM

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Thanks once again for bring up that painful memory. But yes, that is exactly how I know that paralyze doesn't bounce... yet mind blast does. Sigh...

Eh, I'm just kidding. It wasn't all that painful as I'm sure you had expected to win that battle by a much larger margin.

Oh it would have been great to be left with more than 1 "man" sieging that castle - but, not as much fun.