Question: Laying mines on top of a enemies planet

[Roanon]

The sequence is not enirely correct, J) Retrofit/Mothball and K) Repair happen before F)Income.
I haven't tested yet if mine laying really happens before combat, has anyone else?

[ July 17, 2003, 20:21: Message edited by: Roanon ]

[PvK]

I was under the impression that combat also occurs whenever new ships arrive at a location with hostiles, and my guess is that would happen before minelaying, but I haven't tested it.

PvK

[PvK]

I think J) RETROFIT happens before movement and combat, too.

PvK

[Slynky]

Without testing (relying on my memory), I'm pretty sure I have sent a minelayer to a wormhole to launch mines, get my turn and see it was killed and yet there were mines in the sector.

As I also recall, ships leaving the area where I had launnched (the next turn), suffered mine damage.

But I could be wrong on the Last point.

[ July 17, 2003, 23:21: Message edited by: Slynky ]

[Cheeze]

I'm pretty sure I've seen my minelayers get destroyed in their target sector and left mines some times and not on others. Perhaps it depends on both their movement rate and that of the attacking ships.

[PsychoTechFreak]

Originally posted by Slynky:
Without testing (relying on my memory), I'm pretty sure I have sent a minelayer to a wormhole to launch mines, get my turn and see it was killed and yet there were mines in the sector.

Me too, saw this in my Last PBW. But no idea about any movements left or not.

[tbontob]

Originally posted by Roanon:
The sequence is not enirely correct, J) Retrofit/Mothball and K) Repair happen before F)Income.
I haven't tested yet if mine laying really happens before combat, has anyone else?

I think you are correct in your assessment that Retrofit/Mothball and Repair comes before Income.

I do know that retrofit costs come out of storage. If income comes first, then excess income would go into storage allowing more retrofits to take place. As this doesn't happen, it would appear retrofitting comes first.

In my experience, mine laying from a planet happens before combat. I don't have experience of minelaying from a ship.

[ July 18, 2003, 06:30: Message edited by: tbontob ]

[tbontob]

Originally posted by PvK:
I think J) RETROFIT happens before movement and combat, too.

PvK

This could be so and I would think it is easily testable by having a no weapons ship retrofitted to weapons. If it can fire its weapons against another ship in the same turn, then retrofit would indeed come before movement/combat.

The same situation may apply to repair as well.

If nobody can give a definitive answer on this, I will test it in the near future and update the facts in the Newbie Fax.

[sparhawk]

Thanks guys, so laying mines on a planet will work.
And those mines will only do their work if ships are entering, and not working if ships are build there of moving out of it.

Sparhawk

[Loser]

Yeah, for getting them after they are built and move out of that sector you mine the eight sectors around it. And if you have the resources to do that, randomly mine other sectors throughout his system. After your opponent hits the first few some resources might be allocated to extra mine sweepers, or mine sweeping capability on every ship, or just the bullets that he'll be sweating as each turn comes in and he doesn't know what ship he lost to a random mine this time.

Or not.