Proof of stupid AI spellcasting

PDF · #1 February 21st, 2004, 07:39 PM

Here's a shot of a Deathmatch fight between an Inquisitor and a Golden Naga Pretender
Look at the Inq's spells cast... No comment !

Darryl · #2 February 21st, 2004, 08:03 PM

I just saw this Last night. I went against Pythium with 2 Theurgs. One cast (let's call him "Joe") Communion Master and the other ("Fred") cast Communion Slave. Then the next Messages were "Fred casts communion master" and "Joe casts communion slave"! It was ok for me since they didn't actually USE the power they gained, but still....

Graeme Dice · #3 February 21st, 2004, 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by PDF:
Here's a shot of a Deathmatch fight between an Inquisitor and a Golden Naga Pretender
Look at the Inq's spells cast... No comment !

It's not that stupid. That's a witch hunter from the picture. That means that it has fire 2 and astral 1. The only spell I can see it using to damage the Naga is star fires.

Arryn · #4 February 21st, 2004, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
It's not that stupid.

The stupid part is casting Slave and then Master, unless that combo actually works, which it isn't supposed to ...

aldin · #5 February 21st, 2004, 08:45 PM

I see it mostly as a "look at the stupid, unwinnable fight my god got me into... mebbe if I act crazy she'll go away"

Actually, I suspect the AI puts a high value on casting CS but includes itself when "looking" to see if there are any Slaves before casting CM. One "fix" might be to require a minimum of two available slaves before the AI is willing to cast CM.

~Aldin

[ February 21, 2004, 18:45: Message edited by: aldin ]

ioticus · #6 February 21st, 2004, 09:37 PM

Is this with the latest patch? By the way, has anyone noticed an improvement in AI spellcasting with 1.08?

mivayan · #7 February 21st, 2004, 10:02 PM

Did you have star fires researched? If the mage dont have any usefull spell to cast it does not really matter which useless spell it casts.

[ February 21, 2004, 20:09: Message edited by: mivayan ]

Taqwus · #8 February 21st, 2004, 10:31 PM

Eh, cast Body Ethereal, Personal Luck, Astral Weapon and charge. The audience wants to see blood, not a mage sitting there trying to commune with himself.

PDF · #9 February 22nd, 2004, 12:35 AM

Some precisions :
This was a battle between AIs, in 2.08, and I just witnessed the match as Pythium without participating !
After the masterful CM+CS casts, the Marignon mage didn't even try Star Fire and was eaten by the Naga ...

Funniest was that in the end the Naga was killed by a Prophet Vanjarl who get it exhausted fighting Phantasmal Warriors !

This spell was a really good choice this time (at first I found it silly as the PW just delayed the Naga for one or two rounds ...)

[ February 21, 2004, 22:43: Message edited by: PDF ]

Wendigo · #10 February 22nd, 2004, 05:40 PM

Then you should rename the thread PDF, because your example proves nothing.

This was a mistake of the strategic AI sending to the arena a mage that knew no combat spells (ie, had a little thau research, but no evo or alt research). Mages default to cast, if the mage just knows crap he will cast crap regardless of how good or bad the spell AI be.

Despite the nay-sayers, the spell AI is one of the best parts of the game. You want some proof? get the same mage, research evo1 & thau1 and send him to the arena...he will cast star fires instead of com master/slave. But you cannot plant melons & expect apples to grow.