Dom 9 or Dom 10?

Jazzepi · #1 June 29th, 2007, 03:03 AM

Little question to you people out there that like awake SCs. I'm thinking about making one in a new game, and I was curious if there's a huge difference between awe +0 and awe +2 from the 9-10 dominion shift? I get two scales worth of ticks if I go from awe +2 to +0. Or could buy up some more magic paths.

Let me know what you think. The SC in question is a kraken.

Jazzepi

Kristoffer O · #2 June 29th, 2007, 03:15 AM

Of course you go for 10. You can get better titles that way

Jazzepi · #3 June 29th, 2007, 03:18 AM

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Kristoffer O said:
Of course you go for 10. You can get better titles that way

And this is why you never win.

Jazzepi

Kristoffer O · #4 June 29th, 2007, 12:52 PM

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Jazzepi said:

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Kristoffer O said:
Of course you go for 10. You can get better titles that way

And this is why you never win.

Jazzepi

I'd say I win every time, while you can't decide if you are a winner

Gandalf Parker · #5 June 29th, 2007, 01:18 PM

Its kindof hard for the guys who can change the rules to never win

I was misled. I thought this thread was about Dom VERSION 9 or 10. Thats what I want. Dominions the Holodeck version.
Or Jacked-In, give me Dominions the Matrix

Jazzepi · #6 June 29th, 2007, 01:30 PM

Believe me, I'll be the first guy on the operating table, crack my skull open jack me in. Meat damage, here I come!

You die in the game, you die in real life.

Jazzepi

Jazzepi · #7 June 29th, 2007, 01:30 PM

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Kristoffer O said:

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Jazzepi said:

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Kristoffer O said:
Of course you go for 10. You can get better titles that way

And this is why you never win.

Jazzepi

I'd say I win every time, while you can't decide if you are a winner

Well, if "teh winnar is u" is one of the titles that comes with Dom 10, I'll just have to get it.

Jazzepi

Lazy_Perfectionist · #8 June 29th, 2007, 03:27 AM

Yes, there is a huge difference - around 16%, I'd guess. Check the chart on page 5. No guarantees I understand the mechanics correctly, but here's my interpretation.

If you're facing standard 10 morale troops, you could expect to suffer around a third less blows or so as compared directly to awe 0. But compared to the total number of attacks, awe 2 might be expected to protect you from 70% of attacks. That's not as great as it may seem, since a 14 morale troop would hit you 62 % of the time. To consider though, it requires no research, benefits from friendly dominion (weakens enemy morale), and morale is not a static number, and is influenced in a variety of ways. Unlike defense, awe is not reduced by fatigue, and usually increases in value as a battle drags on.

In conclusion, I can't make up my mind.

Jazzepi · #9 June 29th, 2007, 03:47 AM

Keep in mind Krakens have a base of like 250 hitpoints. attacking from a 2 candle province brings you well over 300.

Jazzepi

Velusion · #10 June 29th, 2007, 03:51 AM

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Jazzepi said:
Little question to you people out there that like awake SCs. I'm thinking about making one in a new game, and I was curious if there's a huge difference between awe +0 and awe +2 from the 9-10 dominion shift? I get two scales worth of ticks if I go from awe +2 to +0. Or could buy up some more magic paths.

Let me know what you think. The SC in question is a kraken.

Jazzepi

I almost always take an awake pretender. To answer your question: it depends on how badly the scales are needed for a particular nation and what kind of awake pretender is it.

If it is a combat pretender that mostly uses fear to take out indy's then yea... I'll almost always take dom10. If it is a pretender that can take a beating and you are pressed for scales then I would consider taking dom9 or maybe even lower and just play conservatively.

Safest bet: Run the build with your nation through a test game and see how safely they take out indies. If it can do it just fine with Dom9 or less you can save some points.