How is cheating possible?

[Agrajag]

Pfft...
I was at stormbinder's side all along (even though thats not that long =P).
Usually the guys accused of cheating that try and weasel their way out of it with (albeit minor) flames and vague explanations are actually cheating.
This reminds me of a guy in another forum I was in, only he was a much better propagandist (or had more alter egoes) since the community was split roughly in the middle, with half of it cheering for the flaming beast and the other half was recieving flames and acting quite sedate.
He was caught in the act of hacking (with screenshots) and tried to get away with it accusing other people of hacking and other stuff like that.
Only he kept trolling the Boards (in a much more sedate fashion) and ended up as a forum joke.
Although... There was another cheater that was also caught in the act which accused his brother of hacking his heroes...
And another guy which was caught hacking and ended up reformed and cheat-free AFAIK.

Anyway, Im opposed to cheating, yet I do believe you can change your cheaty ways.
When I was younger I cheated all the time (and never played MP) but after I grew a bit older I realized (with help from my brother) that cheating isnt fun, and Im cheat-free-clean ever since (unless in very specific games under very specific conditions, only SP, only FPS games and only after I finished the game atleast once).

BTW, check out the second mod in my signature, its SO COOL!
And it takes seconds to realize why, all you need to do is create a new pretender!

[Boron]

Anyway, Im opposed to cheating, yet I do believe you can change your cheaty ways.
When I was younger I cheated all the time (and never played MP) but after I grew a bit older I realized (with help from my brother) that cheating isnt fun, and Im cheat-free-clean ever since (unless in very specific games under very specific conditions, only SP, only FPS games and only after I finished the game atleast once).

that's exactly my viewpoint too . no cheating in mp .
i even don't cheat normally in sp only rarely for fun after i completed the game already or if a bug doesn't allow you to continue normal .

[tinkthank]

I agree with a lot of what Boron says. I will miss Norfleet as a member of this forum, since he was both very helpful in many contexts (not just in giving out advice which may or may not now be judged in retrospect as bogus) as well as often entertaining. Additionally, he was often the instigator of (productive) conflict, and (productive) conflict is vital and good for any discourse context. I am sure the Boards will suffer from his absence.
It is a crying shame that this has turned out this way. I had never ever considered Norfleet a cheater, and really couldn't even imagine it.
Of course hat's off to Stormbinder for sticking to his guns and being stubborn in this respect.
No one can expect Norfleet to be able to show his virtual face here again, but I would welcome a "new and cheat-free" Norfleet back as a forum member willingly, and propose that if Norfleet (surely under a different nickname or sig) were to come back perhaps in a few weeks or months and should he have foresworn cheating (and perhaps even help in preventing it in the future by yielding up his computer knowledge), that no attempt be made to shoo him off despite hard feelings.

[alexti]

I don't know about how, but one of the things that made me suspicious of him was his explanation why it took him so long to make the first turn. Seeing Norfleet play blitz, I could notice he is a fast player, however I've seen him taking about 10 minutes to do first turn. He has explained that he always does it slowly, because he is assigning battlefield orders to be used later. But how many scripts can one prepare at the start without having anything researched? Some time later he has posted on this board something to the same effect. So my guess is that whatever he was doing wasn't that quick.

[Vynd]

I also want to thank Stormbinder for uncovering this problem. I'd wonder from time to time if Norfleet was cheating but I lacked the energy, and probably the skills, to figure out if it was true. I'm glad there was someone out there who was willing to put some effort into this and do the Dom II community a big favor.

[Frosted Flake]

I would also like to thank Storm. Jimbo and I accused Norfleet of cheating in our first game when i couldnt get the math to work for his gem horde - he never having searched a province. He explained about bloodstones and dwarven hammers (tho noone mictlan gets can make either)and we didnt buy it but he said it wasnt nice to slander people w/o proof and I know how to turn my computer on and not much more. For those thinking it isnt true or only happenned once in a follow up game he won only a week or two ago at turn 11 he had 7 forts,led in research, led in gem income, army size. At the same time I had equal or greater income (hurling my Vq around with reckless abandon) had bought zero troops (mictlan) had suck *** research and 3 castles one of which I found .It just aint possible.

Frosted Flake

[archaeolept]

^^ word