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Old August 18th, 2004, 03:42 PM

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Orania is perfectly acceptable, but it bugs me a little to play on a donut - are there any maps out there that have just horizontal wraparound?

Just to be nitpicky: Orania is a ball(sphere), where a horziontal-only wraparound map yields a donut (torus)...
Just to be nitpicky: The original poster is correct. Horizontal-only wraparound gives a cylinder

I too would prefer more cylindrical maps. Those donuts are not very intuitive IMO.
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Just to be nitpicky: The original poster is correct. Horizontal-only wraparound gives a cylinder

I too would prefer more cylindrical maps. Those donuts are not very intuitive IMO.
Well, one day, once I become an expert Dom2 player (and what does that usually take people - a year or two? ) I may go into the map creation business. It'd be nice to make a few cylindrical maps complete with bigger provinces on top and bottom to approximate a sphere.

It'd also be nice to have more pretty maps that are also good for MP. The Faerun map is gorgeous, and I love playing SP on it, but so much of what makes it great for SP makes it bad for MP. Maybe Edi's new map resolves that conflict, but I suspect that's a difficult issue to work out. Karan is nice to look at, but the lack of any wraparound can work out to screw your starting position.
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It'd also be nice to have more pretty maps that are also good for MP.
That french map on the Illwinter map page is very pretty!
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I feel that its easiest to not discuss maps in terms of their overall province numbers. Talk about province-per-player. Do you feel that a game is best when everyone can take the provinces around their castle, and then have to prepare for war? Or would you rather some wilderness between players. The more wilderness there is, the more it affects the play of some nations.

Here is part of a page called "Map Thoughts" on www.dom2minions.com

For a player to capture all of the provinces around his castle as a buffer and for resources, we are probably looking at.. 5? There are 17 nations (at this time) so 5*17 would be 85 provinces. Actually, if you fairly consider the land and water nations then the best map should probably be 15*5 or 75 land provinces, and 2*5 or 10 water provinces, to a total of 85.


Down near the end it has some recommended terms ...
SMALL 5 each, or 85 total provinces. Best done as 75 land and 10 water.
MEDIUM 10 each, or 170 total provinces. Best done as 150 land and 20 water.
LARGE 15 each, or 255 total provinces. Best done as 225 land and 30 water.
HUGE 20 each, or 340 total provinces. Best done as 300 land and 40 water.
EPIC 25 or more each, maybe to the maximum 500 total provinces. Something like 450 land and 50 water.


And it has links to various places you can get randomly generated maps. Kindof ugly ones but playable. They are done to fill in the gaps if people want to play a new map of a certain size. Especially the really large ones.

Of course these sizes are all figured to allow for all 17 nations to play at once. For fewer players, consider the math rather than the sizes. For only 10 nations a small map will play like a medium sized game. There is alot more discussion on the "Map Thoughts" page

EDITED: Hmmmm not the best batch of maps today. But tomorrow there will be a whole new batch. Or if you want me to I can kick off the generator to randomize them again.
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