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July 28th, 2005, 05:51 PM
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OVER THERE! Now At the Game Depot
I watched attentively Stephen Bochco's drama, "Over There," about the war in Iraq! All I can say is "Wow!"
It was great. Did you watch it?
It will be coming on each Wednesday night at 10PM EST on the FX Channel.
I was so motivated by it that I stayed up all night and into the morning creating a scenario on this first firefight.
It should be ready before Sunday. Its very short, with single man units and some quick, fast action.
My testing heroes are quick to help me out here, Tom DeShelter, Stephen Porter, and Lars Remmen!
Interested in trying it?
WB
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July 28th, 2005, 07:19 PM
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Re: OVER THERE! Great!
Yes sir I had been waiting to see this...
I loved the action scenes...altho i was a little dismayed by the obvious cliches...
The combat vet sarge is great, the leiutenant is an idiot.
giving stupid orders, the captain kinda realizes the Leiutenant is an idiot and sides with the sarge.
I thought they kinda cliched the womens roles too.
how about you?
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I have answered their demand with a cannon shot, and our flag still waves proudly over the wall.
I shall never surrender or retreat."
Lt. Col. William Barrett Travis- The Alamo-1836
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July 29th, 2005, 09:12 AM
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Re: OVER THERE! Great!
Hmm this is a quandry. Over at SZO, a poster made such a scathing report of the show, that I think it could be nominated, as the worst crud to come out on media in years.
But, considering my views on your views Bill, I have to wonder, if the other chap was being a bit over the top.
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July 29th, 2005, 11:02 AM
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Re: OVER THERE! Great!
Maybe a movie of Bush joining the National Guard to avoid war would be appropriate.
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July 29th, 2005, 12:53 PM
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Re: OVER THERE! Great!
I can't imagine why he would say such a thing, Les. Its really very good, especially for one deeply interested in the happenings in Iraq from our point of view.
I've often found that when the critics hate it, I love it. Red Dawn is a case in point. I've read that it was the worst movie ever made. I think its great.
To each his own, I suppose.
Wouldn't be much fighting in that one, Starmyth, except George arguing with Laura over where she hid the bourbon!
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July 29th, 2005, 01:09 PM
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Re: OVER THERE! Great!
The scenario is done...tested and ready. It can be won. I just achieved a decisive victory but had to play it 8 times to do it. Picture of final score attached.
Scneario can be found here.
http://www.wargamer.com/gamesdepot/details.asp?sid=4030
Its a challenge! Keep your men alive and take the objectives! Out!
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July 29th, 2005, 05:30 PM
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Re: OVER THERE! Great!
Since its on the Fox propaganda network, I've been avoiding it. Usually that helps me from having to erase the crud out of my mind that gets in there if I watch their stuff.
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July 29th, 2005, 05:54 PM
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Re: OVER THERE! Great!
Could someone describe the point for the poor non-US, non-cabled among us?
FOX propaganda or not, a movie can still be fine to look at, provided you keep your mind alert and don't sit and let the unwanted garbage pour in... Whatever the unwanted content actually is!
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July 29th, 2005, 10:44 PM
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July 30th, 2005, 12:00 AM
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Re: OVER THERE! Great!
Actually I was surprised at the candor and the realism of the presentation. It is not a glossed over presentation of the war, George Bush style.
And from what I see, it is going to be even more realistic in terms of the things that happen in war that we prefer not to think about.
Fox or not, in my opinion, it was great. That is my opinion. Everyone is certainly entitled to his own. I do think, however, prejudgement may be premature in this case.
Watch it, then critique it.
WB
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