OT: Stop IE

[wilhil]

Imperator Fyron said:
Compatibility with all browser and OS environments is the entire purpose of the w3c standards. IE is not a valid standard bearer.

I feel we are moving away from the main point here, and it is becoming more a flame war, the main thing I can say is, my non w3c standard site works in both IE and it works in mozilla, which means that mozilla supports not w3c sites, so in reality, how is this diffrent from IE?

IE supports part of w3c. You can design fully w3c-compliant web sites that work in both IE and the rest of the world. IE also has a lot of junk code that it supports that must be avoided. Do you at least run sites through http://validator.w3.org/ to avoid major errors?

I always run through a number of validators so I can check for major errors, I just dont both doing the little things that will not change performance and will allow me to say w3c compliant as I see little use for this.

As I said, mozilla supports non w3c standards for the reason, so they can run non compatible sites, for the same reason microsoft runs them. I just honestly can not see a argument here for saying IE is bad and you should switch, I like IE, I have not hard one problem, and I simply have no reason to switch, yet I do not go around forums saying SWITCH TO IE... and go on about things. personally I like it, and to date, I have not hard one problem.

If you have security issues, put it in high security mode. I have not had one problem.

[Captain Kwok]

All browsers have advantages and disadvantages.

For example, I've being using Firefox for the last year or so and I've experienced more problems with it than I did using IE before - particularily when it crashes and deletes all my bookmarks. I still prefer to use because most it's security features are on by default, so it means less fiddling for me.

I don't follow computer things too closely anymore, but I do find it ironic that many of the programmers who are putting together free software in their spare time are in a way destroying their own future job prospects if their programs take off and replace commercial programs.

[El_Phil]

Imperator Fyron said:
Ok, let me give you this power adaptor for your PC. I am MS, so I ignore standards. Unfortunately, your house was built with standards in mind, so the adaptor shorts out and burns down your house. Now do we see why standards are important?

Hence why MS does bugger all in hardware and long may that continue. Seriously though you have to provide the users a reason to switch. As has been shown no-ones bothered about how bodged it is or how much extra work it is for the web monkeys

So as a serious question, if all this CSS and XML could be fully implemented on websites what would I notice? Not behind the scenes or less bodges for the writers, but what you see upfront, because I genuinely don't know.

[General Woundwort]

I switched to Firefox 6 months ago. I've had a few problems loading some websites in Firefox, but nothing to make me regret the switch.

Just doing my bit to undermine the Microborg...

[wilhil]

General Woundwort said:
I switched to Firefox 6 months ago. I've had a few problems loading some websites in Firefox, but nothing to make me regret the switch.

Just doing my bit to undermine the Microborg...

but what problems did you have in IE to warrent the switch?

hasnt anyone figured out, there always has been, and always will be companies like microsoft, what happened if I, today, and everyone switched to mozilla?

as free as it is, banners, or google sponsered top, they would then own 100% of the market, and be just a target for hackers as IE is today and then will people be saying switch to IE?




People who go on, and try and convert others are frankly no better than people on streets with megaphones saying convert your religeon, yours does xxx and ours does yyy.