OT: Illegal immigrants sue Wendy's...

[Azselendor]

Annexation isn't the way to go all it would do is create another welfare state. US should be exporting cheaper consumer goods to mexico along with forcing mexico to reverse its stance on forbidding americans and american business from owning land in mexico (they are still a wee bit sour about the other northern 2/3rds of mexico we squatted from them I think) allowing Us industries and developers to get down there and make some real in roads.

Also, you want to really get illegal immigrants, set the national language to english and put everything illegal immigrants need in english-only too.

[Renegade 13]

Azselendor said:
...along with forcing mexico to reverse its stance...

I mean no offense when I say this, but...what would give the US the right to try to force a friendly sovereign nation to do anything?

[Captain Kwok]

Renegade 13 said:
I think that if someone is an illegal immigrant, they should immediately and without recourse be shipped back where they came from (unless they want to try to claim asylum). If you don't make illegal immigration an unattractive option, it will continue and grow larger all the time. Deport 'em (after giving them the money that was taken from them illegally).

Hmm. Perhaps if a) companies didn't make it so easy for illegal immigrants to be employed and b) the general public were willing to pay a few more dollars for something, you might have less of a problem.

[Wade]

A nation is defined by it's borders, language, and culture. Per: Michael Savage: www.michaelsavage.com

I agree with slick and Renegade thirteen. Illegal imigration is like cutting in line. Rarely is that tolerated. How does someone cuttting in line make you feel?

Illegal immigration is a slap in the face to legal immigrants and an affront to the citizens of the nation.

Some claim the benefits of these illegal immigrants but never consider the heavy costs that far outweigh any perceived benifits.

[Desdinova]

I am divided on this whole illegal/legal topic (not in the forum but in general).

In this case the workers were trying to follow the rules set forth but due to either error or mismanagement the paperwork was not filed and they were willing to pay for this assistance. Its not their fault but under the law they get punished for it. I feel they deserve to get compensated for this.

In general i do not care for all the "Illegals" that are in this country, but then again the bulk of my ancestry could probably be considered illegal since they took the land from the ones who lived here b4 them back in the beginning. I do not care for the loss of jobs as a result of this (and the whole shipping of jobs overseas either), however they are willing to do jobs that many "citizens" would not be willing to do, especially at the rates they get paid for.

I see that the US is going to be building its own BERLIN WALL between the US and Mexico, partially as a SECURITY issue to prevent terrorists from crossing the border. Well don't forget the northern boarder if it TRULY is for security reasons. So far every time we got our butts kicked here at home it was because we were arrogantly complacent that no one would dare attack us on US soil. but this is off the topic of this thread.

[Renegade 13]

Desdinova said:
...But then again the bulk of my ancestry could probably be considered illegal since they took the land from the ones who lived here b4 them back in the beginning.

There's a big difference between that and illegal immigration. North America was settled by Europeans, and taken from those who were here before. Taken. Conquered, if you like. Conquering is a lot different from illegal immigration.

[Azselendor]

I always get a kick of those with no rights, breaking the law, pretend they have rights beyond that of those read by the arresting officer.

Renegade 13 is correct, Conquest is different from illegal immigration.

European Conquered North American by the elimination (I can't make this any more mild) of native americans.

however...

Europeans (now americans) conquered 2/3rds of Mexico by illegal immigration

[Ludd]

Supporting illegal immigrants is, perhaps, as bad as exploiting illegal immigrants. Neither one stops illegal immigration.

[Azselendor]

The biggest solution to ending illegal immigration is to understand why they come here.

That is, predominately, work and a better-life. Perhaps the US should focus some attention to building Mexico into a better a country with good jobs and quality of living.

[Atrocities]

Black_Knyght said:
Okay, is it just me or is this insane?


ILLEGAL immigrants, using our LEGAL system, file a lawsuit to punish a company for not handling their ILLEGAL employment better.....!?!?!?

Illegal immigrants sue Wendy's

If Wendy's broke the law then they should pay. Being illegal employee or immigrant, doesn't give a company the right to treat people like slaves.

I support any ones choice to work for a living, however I feel that legal immigration is the right way. When people come here illegally and then often are given the mistaken right to vote, and those votes, in the tens of thousands, do fraudulently effect the out come of legitimate elections. They cheat legal Americans out of their right to free un-tampered elections. They tap our welfare system and health care providers from billions each year that only end up increasing health care costs and taxes. While I believe everyone should have access to health care, especially children, I feel that regardless of our a person legal standing as a citizen they should be treated, helped, but then sent back to the country they came from. The illegal immigration is cheating the immigration system and slowing the process for those who want to live and immigrate here legally.

Prove to the people who want to live here that if they follow the rules they win. However, if they take the short cut and sneak into the US we will eventually catch them and then they will be sent back to their home nation. While there is no legal penalty past being deported for illegally entering this country, there should be a punishment that enforces the law to the degree that if you illegally enter this nation you will pay for that crime. However what that punishment would be and then implementing it would cost billions and be no more affective in the end than the current system. So what are we left with? We have millions of people who want to come here to make a living, to better the of their families and themselves. No one can blame them for that. And no one should.

However legal immigration should be the way that is done. So the only effective method for slowing the flow would be to make it very expensive, even to the degree of prison time, to any employer who hires an illegal immigrant too work. Eventually no company or farmer would risk it and the word will get back to those who want to sneak in that not only will they not find a job, but also they will be caught and deported. (If they repeat the offense then perhaps jail time.)

People have the right to want to live and make their lives better. God only knows that as the third largest nation in the world now, the US can certainly do more to help those who really need our help than we have in the past.

I will even bet that if we gave the opportunity for Afghan and Pakistan refugees to come here and live, even though they hate us, they would come. They would come because they know that a life in the US is far better than the life they would have otherwise.

As to Mexican illegal immigration, well Mexico has to step up to bat as well. We all know that the Mexican government wants as many illegal immigrants in the US as they can force across the boarder. They want this to effect election out comes, to burden the US economically, and to send a message, "hey it was our land before it was yours and we want it back!"

If Mexico’s economy was better, and God knows it should be, then those people who would otherwise come here, would instead remain home and make a life for themselves in their own nation. Tell the Mexican government to get off their lazy asses, end the corruption, get it into gear, and do the right thing for their own people and nation.

Until the system is addressed, all those illegal immigrants that are working here in the US, make them PAY TAXES!

We might not be able to stop the flow of illegal immigration, but we can at least make damn sure those working pay their fair share of taxes to help pay for the services for those who don't or can't work.

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