Is anyone having fun with this game? - Page 2

Nerfix · #1 October 26th, 2006, 06:32 AM

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Cainehill said:Too many things we had gotten used to in Dom2 (even if only through the CB & hero mods) were taken away (themes, filtering researchers, ability to view spell list during pretender creation, and I know I'm forgetting others at 1 in the morning), and too many irritations were added : maps shipped that didn't have the fixes that had been available for over a year, nations without heroes, the @#$#* aging system, pretenders that once again are unbalanced, and again, I'm forgetting things.

Then, we _still_ don't have even half baked battle reports for castle sieges, don't have proper battle reports that would tell which commanders died, how many of each troop type, still no way to keep people from uploading pretenders w/o passwords, no way to change passwords after creation....

I hope there'll be more fun after patches, and after equivalents of the CB and Heroes mods come out, but.... Right now, I tend to think Dom2 was a more enjoyable experience.

Apart from the aging system which I think is a wonderful counterforce to Arch Theurg spam and other mage phenomena but needs some tweaking (Abysia's mages...tis' maddness) I tend to agree.

I mean, they took Awe which was pretty much the only reason the use them and not much of a reason either from Sons of Sun pretender. We still have a 50 point Lord of the Gates who gets whopping D1 magic. That water Titan pretender who is not only inferior to Dagon, he is more expensive. And then we get humongously powerful Helheim for early era, making F9/W9 bless even more no-brainer. WTHex guys. WTHex?

Nevertheless I'm having fun with the game but I have a feeling that it would have needed two more months under development or a larger dev team would have done the game good. Some of the stuff that's haunting the game is OLD, like the vague battle reports.

After Dominions 2 I'm not buying the "this will get fixed in a patch". Dominions 2 did get a lot of patches and they mostly fixed bugs, which is good. But we never got those more detailed battle reports etc etc. Instead we got Conquerors of the Seas Marignon, Raptors etc. which were off-balance and had to be tweaked in patches.

I just wish IW would have sat down and fixed the old stuff like battle reports before adding more stuff to the game. Worse, Dominions 3 introduced a number of bugs ranging from the map oopsies to Astral Travel not working. And they removed useful functions like the hosting dialogue even in singleplayer and removing the researcher highlighting. WTHex guys, WTHex?

To sum it up, I really like the game but it has it's glaring problems that are old and never got fixed in past, thus I am sceptic of ever seeing them getting fixed. And that dulls down my enjoyment.

DominionsFan · #2 October 26th, 2006, 06:37 AM

Needless to say that I love the game. Sure there are bugs, imbalances etc. but these problems will be solved sooner or later. Just be patient!

Nerfix · #3 October 26th, 2006, 06:38 AM

I'm just a quite sceptic person by nature. If these things don't get fixed in the past I'm kinda doubtful that they will get fixed in the future.

B0rsuk · #4 October 26th, 2006, 07:07 AM

Pick me ! Pick me !

I'm not having fun with this game. It's because I ordered it from Tuxgames on 17th October, and their website still says 'sold out. stock expected to arrive on 10th october'.

As for demo, I have a promising Arcoscephale (I can spell it

) game. I just launched a coordinated attack on 3 Mictlan forts (but not capitol), while holding ground against R'lyeh(Wyrm seeks vengeance), Jotunheim, Sauromantia and Oceania to lesser extent.
And guess what, 40 turn limit hit.

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Lasu · #5 October 26th, 2006, 10:34 AM

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B0rsuk said:
I'm not having fun with this game. It's because I ordered it from Tuxgames on 17th October, and their website still says 'sold out. stock expected to arrive on 10th october'.

As for demo, I have a promising Arcoscephale (I can spell it

) game. I just launched a coordinated attack on 3 Mictlan forts (but not capitol), while holding ground against R'lyeh(Wyrm seeks vengeance), Jotunheim, Sauromantia and Oceania to lesser extent.
And guess what, 40 turn limit hit.

In-bloody-deed. Around turn 30 I usually start to think like there's no point in doing anything anymore, since the game will end soon anyway, and I pretty much either just press e repeatedly or start to mount a attack with all the troops I have, and, just like with B0rsuk, the game ends the same turn I get the army to attack.

I will repost in this thread when I get the game from Tuxgames and have played it for a couple of days, and describe my boundless enjoyment. Expect to hear from me again around Christmas.

Amos · #6 October 26th, 2006, 07:33 AM

I remember someone asking for detailed battle reports (or any battle report for sieges) two years ago,so I'm not holding my breath.

solops · #7 October 26th, 2006, 10:09 AM

Never played any DOMs before and I am having a blast with this one. My biggest complaints are (1. having to manually save every few turns, (2. continually losing to Normal-Standard AIs (lol). More detailed reports would indeed increase the involvement and enjoyment of the game! Have not played enough to have a clue about balancing.

DominionsFan · #8 October 26th, 2006, 07:51 AM

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Nerfix said:
I'm just a quite sceptic person by nature. If these things don't get fixed in the past I'm kinda doubtful that they will get fixed in the future.

Well maybe the imbalances won't be fixed by IW, but this is why we have powerful modding "tools". The community can fix the imbalance problems.

Nerfix · #9 October 26th, 2006, 07:53 AM

But the community cannot fix the battle messages etc etc.

Leif_- · #10 October 26th, 2006, 09:40 AM

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Nerfix said:
I just wish IW would have sat down and fixed the old stuff like battle reports before adding more stuff to the game.

I both agree and disagree. While ideally it would be nice to see them sand down all the old roughnesses, Illwinter have always had a tendency to work on the stuff they were interested in and entusiastic about. While this does mean that we get to keep the old annoyances that aren't fun to fix, I rather suspect that a game like Dominions plain can't be made in any other way.

If it's a question (as I believe it might be) about having entusiastic developers or having them work on "boring stuff," I'd rather have them enthusiastic (and I really want better battlereports and GUI) because it's that enthusiasm that's made Dominions Dominions.