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Old December 7th, 2006, 01:36 PM

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When I selected machaka this odd pretender appeared



I was not using ANY mods and the map had not been edited in any way.I am running the latest version on a mac OSX 10.4.6

P.S.Is he worth 75 points?
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Old December 7th, 2006, 01:41 PM

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Default Re: Mysterious Pretender

It has a very high dominion of 4, 2 Earth and perfect protection. So 75 points seems nothing special.

Whats wrong with it?
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Old December 7th, 2006, 01:44 PM
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Well, it is very durable and resistant to many spells, but would make a poor warrior unless you can work around the low attack and defence. Extremely low AP may not allow it to rout in time. I guess you should use it as a battle mage or abuse stuff like fire shield or eye shield. Part of protection is Plate Curaiss, so you won't benefit as much from equipping it with something else.

Would be worth the 75 points, but only if you have a plan.
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Old December 7th, 2006, 01:53 PM

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calmon:Nothing was wrong with it.I just thought he/it was odd.

B0rsuk:Thanks for the suggestion.He could probably be a good SC given some good gear (he really needs a speed increasing item/spell badly)
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Old December 7th, 2006, 02:00 PM

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Default Re: Mysterious Pretender

His description was broken in v3.01 - I don't know why. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that he's spelled incorrectly?

From v3.00 we know that he's a big statue that the Machakan people worshipped long enough that it took on life and became their god. It does what the people expect it would do, so it punishes harshly and rewards sparringly.

Game mechanically, I like it. It's really tough, and makes a quite capable combatant. Perhaps more importantly, it provides a very god dominion. Ultimately, it's a lot like a Virtue, but the fac that it is lifeless and mindless but isn't undead or magical makes it really hard to cheap kill. Probably the perfect thing to fight Rlyeh with.

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Old December 7th, 2006, 02:04 PM

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I'm sure there's some use for it but it doesn't seem like a particularly *useful* SC. It needs a LOT of boosting to be functional with those low stats, which means it will be a while before you can use it. It's too slow to mix well with an army although it could be useful to draw arrow fire.
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Old December 7th, 2006, 02:23 PM

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Well I hope his description gets fixed in the next patch anyhow.Thanks for your support guys!
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Old December 7th, 2006, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: Mysterious Pretender

I dont think that pretenders are really offered with the thought of being useful. They tend more toward being applicable to the concept of the nation. The abilities and magics tend to come ready-made by whatever historical mythos Kristoffer is working off of. Then the cost of the pretender is figured from those abilities.

If I were to build useful pretenders for nations such as Man and Pangaea I would leave off nature magic and fill it in with some magics that are missing in the nation. Unfortunately, the RPG pretenders for those nations tend to provide things like extra food which is vastly uneeded by a nations whose mages carry alot of nature magic anyway.

I think Kristoffer would like to provide more unique things to each nation like gods and heroes. Feel free to recommend some that fill in gaps (such as, nation xxxx has no pretender offering xxxx which would seem to fit their theme) but just making them up off the top of our heads doesnt seem to work very well. You need to do some deep googling for things that fit the nation and then try to justify why it should also have certain abilities. Those tend to have a better chance of getting added. (the other ideas you can talk to the modders about)
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Frank:How come I never had him available in v3.00?
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You just missed it.
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