Why Kailasa, Bandar Log, and Patala NEVER WIN

[DrPraetorious]

In general, I think raiding is annoying, and that PD should be better. This is especially true for monkeys and giants.

There are a few game-balance points to consider, however:
* There are a few spells that are *only* useful for raiding, and call of the winds is *supposed* to be used for raiding. Making PD better makes these spells worse, and they are not hugeley competitive at present.

* There are several nations that depend on raiding to be competitive at certain stages of the game. Caelum, obviously, and the now-nerfed *heims.

So if I make a stronger/balanced PD mod, it should also compensate for those changes (cue: swallowed a cat, to catch the fly....)

[K]

DrPraetorious said:
In general, I think raiding is annoying, and that PD should be better. This is especially true for monkeys and giants.

There are a few game-balance points to consider, however:
* There are a few spells that are *only* useful for raiding, and call of the winds is *supposed* to be used for raiding. Making PD better makes these spells worse, and they are not hugeley competitive at present.

One point of monkey PD is already enough to beat off a Call of Winds . (Had this happen in Perpetuality, where my 5 gold investment beat off five provinces worth of CoW castings).

[llamabeast]

I think several of us have all agreed to fight Lord_Bob. Being as I appear to be coming down with a fever I think I will step down. However, if the others (Shovah32? someone else?) can't play then I will take the reins - this game has to be fought!

[Lord_Bob]

Actually, because Ulm's flails are so deadly, and all I have to do is reach Evo-4/Conj-3 to spam blade wind, Ulm could do reasonably well against the arrow throwing troops with Mighty Bucklers of Bandar. But a straight beat down is not what I'm looking for. I want to raid the hell out of him so he gets a good idea how problematic no PD is.

[Ironhawk]

Lord Bob - you must play MA Ulm or I will completely ignore everything you have to say from this point on. And encourage all the other vets to do the same.