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View Poll Results: What do you think of this theory?
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Old January 8th, 2008, 09:58 AM
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I was sort of thinking of that epsiode of Futurama where the universe is in a box. Fry sits on the box and the universe is squashed, but since they are in the universe they don't notice. Only us outside observers. Probably a mistake to consider Futurama scientific fact . After all they increased the speed of light.

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Given enough energy, matter & antimatter can be created by pair production.
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I see. of course I should have said energy cannot be created or destroyed. my mistake.
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Just Finished scanning this topic. Gravity is nothing, black holes are mathematical expressions of Newtonian physics. The reality is we have an electric universe that easily explains what we are seeing. The next time you see that Scientist are "surprised" at what they find in outer space please question in your mind if our current theory is correct why are they surprised? The electric universe easily explains what we are seeing and how things work.Try to think past Newton and realize that Gravity is really weak.

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Just Finished scanning this topic. Gravity is nothing, black holes are mathematical expressions of Newtonian physics. The reality is we have an electric universe that easily explains what we are seeing. The next time you see that Scientist are "surprised" at what they find in outer space please question in your mind if our current theory is correct why are they surprised? The electric universe easily explains what we are seeing and how things work.Try to think past Newton and realize that Gravity is really weak.

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I haven't read these, but generally the problem with an EM structure is propagation speed of EM forces being c, creating a lag that doesn't correspond to observation.
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Just Finished scanning this topic. Gravity is nothing, black holes are mathematical expressions of Newtonian physics. The reality is we have an electric universe that easily explains what we are seeing. The next time you see that Scientist are "surprised" at what they find in outer space please question in your mind if our current theory is correct why are they surprised? The electric universe easily explains what we are seeing and how things work.Try to think past Newton and realize that Gravity is really weak.

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Well, the first source starts spouting nonsense by the second sentence. The surface of the Sun is made of neon?

The second beats on astronomers using a classic "straw man" argument, but doesn't go much further than that.

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Regarding the speed of gravity, general relativity predicts that it's limited to the speed of light. I don't know if it has been successfully measured. I think some observations may have been made of binary pulsars, but again I don't know the result.
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