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July 9th, 2008, 12:47 AM
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Re: So no Dominions 4?
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That its a good game in a sea of sub par titles.
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So you admit at least that it's a good game?
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Not to mention if you dropped the price 15 dollars or so, so it was 45 bucks, youd sell alot more. 3x45 is more than 1x60.
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And if we dropped the price to a $1 we could sell SIXTY TIMES MORE COPIES, right? Oh wait, 60x1 isn't very helpful. But at least more people would be playing, right?
Why $45? Why not $50? Why not $40? Why not $43.82? So we drop it to $45 then someone comes along and goes, "You're fleecing your customers! If you dropped the price to $30 you'd sell a lot more. 5x30 is more than 3x45."
Why am I getting a sense of deja vu with this conversation?)
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After a short burst of interest, they move on to a game they can all play together.
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To all the folks playing MP games on this board has everyone shot their wad with their "short burst of interest"? Or are you still playing?
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Grognards, enthusiasts, previous fans, and people starving for a quality game will, and if thats your goal, awesome, more power to yah Rockefellar
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Hey, who leaked our business plan?
So, you think it's a good game but don't like what we charge for it...that sums it up, right? That's fine, to each his own.
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July 9th, 2008, 05:06 AM
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Re: So no Dominions 4?
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So you admit at least that it's a good game?
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Of course its a great game, but I can throw away more money than the average joe on a risk. And I had to throw away what to most people is a fair price at best for games that are considerably better developed. If you care about where your money goes after it leaves your hands, and yeah i know, most consumers are idiots, doesnt mean we all are, then you think about what the costs break down to...if you know a game that costs millions to produce (though it breaks down to several dollars a produced copy), sells at 50 dollars a piece, you would expect, much like every other market on other, that if the production cost of an item is less than millions, to cost less as a result.
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And if we dropped the price to a $1 we could sell SIXTY TIMES MORE COPIES, right? Oh wait, 60x1 isn't very helpful. But at least more people would be playing, right?
Why $45? Why not $50? Why not $40? Why not $43.82? So we drop it to $45 then someone comes along and goes, "You're fleecing your customers! If you dropped the price to $30 you'd sell a lot more. 5x30 is more than 3x45."
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Why be the only company that sells a product for 20% more than everyone else on earth? From paradox, to malfador, their prices are reasonable, what makes you different. Why are people paying an extra 15-25 dollars more for your game, than any other game in the same category, independant 4x games.
Paradoxs EU3 is already cheaper.
And its 3d.
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Hey, who leaked our business plan?
So, you think it's a good game but don't like what we charge for it...that sums it up, right? That's fine, to each his own.
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Youre like starbucks (who is failing miserably now). Theres no actual reason that your product costs more than the exact same product elsewhere, youre just smug. A good idea, implemented into a consumer base in the richest country on earth, internetonia, priced for maximum profit, without any consideration to the actual value of the product.
When this recession sets in more, youll drop your prices, because no one will be buying frivilous entertainment. Might as well have a nice large community base on which to sell budget expansions too.
You guys make so many patches with new content, you should consider going on steam, selling the game for vastly cheaper, and sell the patches as episodic content.
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July 9th, 2008, 06:10 AM
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Re: So no Dominions 4?
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Why are people paying an extra 15-25 dollars more for your game, than any other game in the same category, independant 4x games.
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Why indeed. Careful, Kraftwerk. You're precariously close to starting down on the road to wisdom.
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July 11th, 2008, 05:43 PM
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Re: So no Dominions 4?
I've a particular interest in wanting no more of this or this sort of threads (the reason being I find them annoying and if you can do it better i think you should start a business yourself and prove it and not whine here, another being that I paid a lot of money for this game so so should the rest of the world (I'm really not a nice guy)
so here is the link with some info. (I'm pretty sure there was a thread somewhere with talk about it but I can't be bothered anymore
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/blog/?s=niche+price
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July 9th, 2008, 12:43 AM
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Re: So no Dominions 4?
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Then why the heck are you still charging 60 dollars for a game thats a bargain bin title?
And you wonder why people pirate games...christ...this game is as much as my car insurance. Ever heard of depreciation? Game might sell a bit better at a lower price. Like say, 30 dollars? Considering it didnt cost 1/100th of what it costs to create A+ titles?
I cant get anyone to try this game because its too darned expensive. I cant get another copy so i can legitimately play with my roomies, because its too darned expensive.
Why do you fail at marketing.
Bioshock, that cost umpteenth million dollars, dropped to half your price in the first 6 months it was out.
You people are obviously on crack.
Drop it 15 dollars and youll prolly triple yer sales.
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1) 1 game at $60 makes them a lot more than 3 at $15. Your logic makes no sense.
2) Dominions will never have the wide appeal and thus sales that the big titles have. It takes too much thinking to play it. This means they have to charge more.
As for playing with your roomies, do it hotseat. One copy is fine.
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