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August 21st, 2008, 08:41 PM
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Re: Endgame Wish Strategy
Z: exactly..if you are prepared to charm/enslave it would seem to be a nice use of a wish. I suppose if nothing else, you will have killed an SC and possibly won some gear, which to me is more of a net positive than obtaining a naked SC.
And to the point of people wanting to wish for Azazel the grigori - that might be one way to get him if he is already in the game.
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August 21st, 2008, 09:36 PM
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Second Lieutenant
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Re: Endgame Wish Strategy
No. The name is Grigori, you cannot wish for "Azazel the Grigori".
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August 22nd, 2008, 02:53 PM
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Re: Endgame Wish Strategy
Wow. I always wondered how that game ended up... I was involved in that for about 15 turns as Niefelheim. I'm glad it came to an epic (epically messed up, anyway) ending.
That makes my day!
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August 22nd, 2008, 03:35 PM
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Second Lieutenant
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Re: Endgame Wish Strategy
Just read all 21 pages of that - obviously frustrating for many players, but it sounded very interesting to me. A very unique situation. How to play out a game where everyone has a destroyed economy (with no LA Ermor to take advantage of it).
I wish the participants had played it out to the bitter end - there might have been a lot of lessons learned about how to operate in such a poisoned environment, surviving on gems alone, etc.. You'd think someone who had a lot of gold/silver/gem mine magic sites might have been able to parlay that into some kind of victory...
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August 22nd, 2008, 04:54 PM
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Re: Endgame Wish Strategy
Bounce where?
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August 22nd, 2008, 07:50 PM
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Re: Endgame Wish Strategy
I dont think its determinate. Some random province. Probably friendly? Its the same as any failed teleport into a dome, I think.
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August 22nd, 2008, 08:28 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Re: Endgame Wish Strategy
If teleport is failed, commander stays home - I'm absolutely sure about this.
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August 26th, 2008, 01:42 PM
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Re: Endgame Wish Strategy
I disagree ano. With the above example in mind, I've even seen other times when teleport and mass-teleport spells have bounced.
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August 26th, 2008, 03:49 PM
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Re: Endgame Wish Strategy
In the recent game (Highlander) as R'lyeh I teleported about 20 mages and a lot of army to the Utgard capital which was protected by astral and air domes. I was very lucky to kick off an air dome very fast but still most of my mages stayed home while others smashed the defense. So, once again, I am absolutely sure about it.
If you're absolutely sure about the opposite then the only possible explanation I can see is that that capital was surrounded by enemy provinces.
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