MP Noobs vs. Vets, Game Over, Noobs are Victorious! Hail Noobs! - Page 30

Ironhawk · #1 February 27th, 2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Septimius Severus

The consensus seems to have been that the vets would gain the upper hand in the mid to late game due to their ability to create thugs or SC's and their familiarity with the magic system, maps, etc. I'm thinking of 3:1 to balance this, it will be a larger map and a longer playing game (as you know I don't care for this cramped stuff).

I'll likely give them first choice of nations.

Perhaps an indie strength of 3, though I'll need to balance this to ensure timing.

Edit: But we'll have to see how the current game plays out.

3:1 is just too much. Possibly if all the noobs were rank amateurs - but as we can see from this game that is clearly not the case.

Ironhawk · #2 February 26th, 2009, 01:27 PM

Poor ulm. You guys all picked on him, didnt you? Merciless noobs!!

rdonj · #3 February 26th, 2009, 01:40 PM

Nah, mictlan is who we're picking on. Mictlan who lost 20+ jaguars and numerous support units to just some pd in a battle over one of my provinces.

Ironhawk · #4 February 26th, 2009, 11:22 PM

Ulm, on the scale of luck that you just had, that probably ranks about a 12 on a scale from 0-10.

rdonj · #5 February 27th, 2009, 12:52 AM

Oh, do tell on. Ulm hasn't said a thing yet. And I still haven't checked my turn yet. And won't be able to for a while longer, I need to shut my computer down for a storm. But do tell! Or ulm, you can tell also.

Ironhawk · #6 February 27th, 2009, 12:56 AM

So in the battle for his capital, my 150hp pretender received TWO afflictions from glancing (5-8dam) arrow hits in the first two turns. Which is ridiculously lucky on its own. But then more than that he got Crippled and Chest Wound so he could neither reach the front lines to turn the battle in my favor, nor flee the battle once my men routed. Off the scale luck!

archaeolept · #7 February 27th, 2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironhawk

So in the battle for his capital, my 150hp pretender received TWO afflictions from glancing (5-8dam) arrow hits in the first two turns. Which is ridiculously lucky on its own. But then more than that he got Crippled and Chest Wound so he could neither reach the front lines to turn the battle in my favor, nor flee the battle once my men routed. Off the scale luck!

i'm pretty sure affliction chance is determined by the nominal hp value, which is determined by the current province dominion; ie., if your pretender has 100 base hp, and the enemy dom is at least 4, he'll only have a nominal max hp of 20... so a 5-8 damage hit will yield a really good chance of an affliction.

also, arrows tend to be more likely to give chest wounds.

being crippled was bad luck

Lingchih · #8 February 27th, 2009, 02:22 AM

The Gorgon has yet to take the field. We shall soon see though, what the Noobs can do against the Gorgon. (That first fight didn't count. She only had a rawhide shield for equipment).

Lingchih · #9 February 27th, 2009, 02:35 AM

Yeah, game is at a good pace. Let's let it ride. I just don't want to see 72 hour too soon.

Lingchih · #10 February 27th, 2009, 11:17 PM

3:1 is indeed too much. As we have seen in this game, perhaps 2:1 is too much. Many noobs pick up the MP game very quickly, and when it is 2:1, with all the Noobs surrounding the Vets and able to attack on multiple fronts, well, it just becomes a quick duel, with all the Vets mid and late game knowledge thrown out the window.

That said, I certainly don't think this game is anywhere near over. A few of the Vets are still strong, and though I am a bit province poor at the moment, the Gorgon will soon make up for that.