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				January 22nd, 2009, 01:21 PM
			
			
			
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				 How can I transform my pretender ? 
 Hi !
 I choose an immobile pretender : fountain of blood.
 I wanted to change it to something more moveable. After all I'm a pretender for me sake !
 
 Well Twiceborn doesn't work : lifeless...
 Transformation doesn't work either, though it's not described in the spell.
 I failed to find a wish that could help...
 
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				January 22nd, 2009, 01:32 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: How can I transform my pretender ? 
 don't choose the blood fountain?
 you could empower in air or astral and trapeze or teleport.
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				January 22nd, 2009, 01:36 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: How can I transform my pretender ? 
 Hey, The Teleport/Gateway/Cloud Trapeze/Stygian Path/Faerie Trod rituals work for immobile pretenders.
 As the fountain of blood those might not be available to you, however.
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				January 22nd, 2009, 02:12 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: How can I transform my pretender ? 
 All that Redeyes said, plus remember: Astral Travel doesn't  work with immobiles (in case you were wondering), and should you choose the Sphinx as another immobile pretender for another game remember to take some Death bcuz only  Stygian Paths work for it    
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				January 22nd, 2009, 02:21 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: How can I transform my pretender ? 
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				January 22nd, 2009, 02:31 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: How can I transform my pretender ? 
 
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					Originally Posted by WingedDog  As long as I remember Gateway doesn't work with immobiles. Am I wrong? |  Just checked in a testgame, you are right |  
	
		
	
	
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				January 22nd, 2009, 02:34 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: How can I transform my pretender ? 
 You're right WD, just tested    
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				January 22nd, 2009, 04:04 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: How can I transform my pretender ? 
 some immobiles cannot be moved by any means, IIRC.  this is because immobiles like the Sphinx are extremely hard to defeat and would be dropped onto another players capital in the early game using teleport, completely crippling them.
 i've never done this myself, and am not real sure, but that's what I've heard about it.
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				 Re: How can I transform my pretender ? 
 If you REALLY want to then it would be about a 4-line text file to create a little mod to add movement to the Fountain of Blood.  
Altho you might want to make that 5 line and add the line to grant it as a god only to the nation you are playing.
 
Of course you could also go nuts and throw in all kinds of stuff like free spells, gem making ability, summon ability, etc. 
 
And you also could use any creature in the game (demons, devils, horrors, gnomes) or even add your own little image from some other game and build its abilities from scratch. 
 
You could even put in a picture of yourself and build a god around that.   
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				January 22nd, 2009, 06:23 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: How can I transform my pretender ? 
 The intention was that Sphinxes be totally immobile.  But Tifone is correct, Stygian Paths works for it.  You never know when that's gonna be patched right in the middle of your game, though.
 Empower the Blood Fountain in Astral, that's the easiest way (you can make pearls from anything except slaves).
 
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