Nation Library

[Endoperez]

Sorry, but I won't have access to my Dominions installation for at least a week. I already have plans for my winter break: snes emulator and Chrono Cross. That damn Golem!

[pyg]

So I'm feeling quite good about Kailasa and LA Ulm being reasonably good copies now. I would appreciate any tips about how to remove pretenders from a nation choice as that is currently the only known bug... maybe we can call it a feature Would very much appreciate testing and bug finding.

I think I can do new nations in about 30 minutes to an hour now that I have the hang of it. It's a lot of reference jumping, between the manual, the game, the database, and various other mods and posts. Also there isn't support for dominion effects yet which will take a little more time to implement when I get to a nation with it. Kailasa and LA Ulm don't have any right?

If people would like to start more multi same-nation games I currently have energy to do up the nations before the game. This offer expires in two weeks as I will be quite busy then till next winter. These games don't have to be limited to just one nation. You could 3 of one and 5 of another and 4 of another. Could do Era wars or something EA -vs MA -vs- LA of a given nation...

[lch]

Originally Posted by pyg

So I'm feeling quite good about Kailasa and LA Ulm being reasonably good copies now. I would appreciate any tips about how to remove pretenders from a nation choice as that is currently the only known bug... maybe we can call it a feature Would very much appreciate testing and bug finding.

See your problem before... give the pretender you want to remove from the pool a tag to be a restricted god for independents, nation number 25 or something?

[pyg]

Just to show how simple it is to put a mod together with this new framework, the following snippet creates a mod of 3 Kailasa and 3 LA Ulm players. The posted version of dmg.py has not been updated yet, and won't be for a bit as I'm still working on it.

#!/usr/bin/env python                                                                                                       
# -*- Mode: Python; tab-width: 4 -*-                                                                                        

from dmg import D3MNation, D3M
from dmg_nations import *

era = 1
new_mod = D3M(era = era, modname = "AnyAny Kailasa/Ulm")
new_mod.remove_default_nations()
new_mod.add_nation(EA_Kailasa.get("My Kailasa", None))
new_mod.add_nation(EA_Kailasa.get("No, My Kailasa", None))
new_mod.add_nation(EA_Kailasa.get("Going Bananas", None))
new_mod.add_nation(LA_Ulm.get("CountCountCount", None))
new_mod.add_nation(LA_Ulm.get("Ulm, are you, ulm, sure?", None))
new_mod.add_nation(LA_Ulm.get("ULM FANATIC", None))
print new_mod

[pyg]

Well I'm certainly filling up this thread with my thoughts... so I'll just keep doing that!

If only been modding for about a week and am still learning a lot. I've recently become mostly certain that there is no way to copy certain dominion effects of certain nations inc. LA Ermor, LA R'yleh, MA C'tis, MA T'ien Ch'i, and probably a few others I don't know about. If so, I am not as interested in this project anymore as it means it will be permanently incomplete. I also have certain other complaints, like why only 799 newmonster unit ids? I'm bending over backwards to work with such a limited range. Why not, for example, a 64 bit integer or (~800 < something < infinity). Many other modding variables also have very narrow ranges. Wow, I really sound whiny.

Anyway my random nation generator using units from the independents is still pretty fun.

[chrispedersen]

Bravo pyg, is all I can say...
But if you want a suggestion - start with late age. Fewest nations in that age and it might encourage others to help. Although, 30 minutes is pretty amazing.

[lch]

As for the "why those limitations on the available ID ranges", because that would directly increase turn processing times, everywhere. The game loops through those available IDs in a lot of places during turn processing. Before you can expect to have almost no limits to modding, there would have to be better data structures in the game.