[OT] Roguelikes?

[licker]

Angband and its many many variants are my cup of tea.

You should be able to find a variant you like, and if you are a Tolkien fan then you should appreciate it all the more.

[analytic_kernel]

I haven't tried Zangband, but have found vanilla Angband and NPPAngband to be quite enjoyable. ToME has massive variety (you can choose a Death Mold as a character race, among other things), and a world map you can wander around on, but it didn't feel very balanced.

I think I tried Adom once, but didn't like the way shopkeeper transactions worked - seemed too tedious. Maybe Angband and co. have spoiled me, but I like having a letter-indexed menu when I'm shopping. Also, IIRC, the developer was not interested in releasing the sources. Being a software developer myself, I understand the desire to keep control of creative direction... but look at Angband - it has outlived many of its offspring and even assimilated some of their features over time.

[Omnirizon]

Originally Posted by Beorne

I was an avid player of Adom and Nethack (and the Slash'em fork in a minor way) in the good ol' days. Now both these projects seems to be in a "freezing" status.

Reading some posts in ths forum I learned about Dwarf Fortreass (very intriguing, but too much complex for me) and Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup, a roguelike with lot of very interesting and "modern" conepts.

Could you hint me some good (and actively supported) roguelikes?
Thanks.

I second Dwarf Fortress and Crawl Stone Soup.

Nethack et al. are top-notch. they are probably in freeze status simply because the original developers are getting Alzheimers.

I wish their were more *hack style games. I think *bands won out due to them being more rote power-gaming (kill kill kill. no end to items/monsters. more stuff is more important than id'ing what you have). I think Nethack has more finesse and elegance in gameplay than any other roguelike.

you could also give GearHead and 3059 a whirl, they are some of your only options if your in for some sci-fi rogue action. The creator of 3059 is now working on 3069. they are both OK games, and mature. However they just don't have the legacy nor the development background of any mainstream rogue (all of which are fantasy based).

Dwarf Fortress is my number one though. It is really a great game.

[Nihil]

Today I have just heard about this one:

UnReal World

http://www.jmp.fi/~smaarane/urw.html

I havent played it myself but it looks good, perhaps someone has more info on it.

[hEad]

Originally Posted by Nihil

Today I have just heard about this one:

UnReal World

http://www.jmp.fi/~smaarane/urw.html

I havent played it myself but it looks good, perhaps someone has more info on it.

Just seen this one lately myself. Downloaded the demo, but have not fired it up yet - dominionism...

flick through the wiki - sure does look interesting

http://unrealworldwiki.net/index.php?title=Main_Page

[LDiCesare]

I'm currently sick with adomitis. I managed to beat NetHack several times, even with a tourist, but ADOM is just too hard for me. Yet. I somehow don't understand why Dwarf Fortress gets classified as roguelike. Sure, graphically it is, but to me it's a real time wait for your dwarves to do stuff. Lots of stuff, mind you, and lots of commands, but real time. There's a roguelike (rpg) mode somewhere I believe, but I never managed to get far enough to find it.

[Burnsaber]

Originally Posted by LDiCesare

I'm currently sick with adomitis. I managed to beat NetHack several times, even with a tourist, but ADOM is just too hard for me. Yet. I somehow don't understand why Dwarf Fortress gets classified as roguelike. Sure, graphically it is, but to me it's a real time wait for your dwarves to do stuff. Lots of stuff, mind you, and lots of commands, but real time. There's a roguelike (rpg) mode somewhere I believe, but I never managed to get far enough to find it.

How to play ADOM on easy mode:

Play Wizard.

They will simply own everything in the late game and they have the best means of escape when in trouble: Teleport.

When you encounter a large stack enemies, zap them unitl your mana is nearly depleted, teleport and go somewhere safe to regenerate the mana. Then assault the survivors, teleport again, rince and repeat ad infitum.
Nothing in that game is completely immune to magic, Karmic dragons are annoying, but I've killed Ancient karmic wyrms with "Magic Missile".

[LDiCesare]

The farthest I got in ADOM was with a drakeling paladin who learnt teleport somehow. Wizards still have to find the spellbook and survive before that. I rarely manage to even reach Khelavaster, so late game is not as much of an issue as mid-game since I don't reach it often.

[Mithras]

Originally Posted by LDiCesare

I'm currently sick with adomitis. I managed to beat NetHack several times, even with a tourist, but ADOM is just too hard for me. Yet. I somehow don't understand why Dwarf Fortress gets classified as roguelike. Sure, graphically it is, but to me it's a real time wait for your dwarves to do stuff. Lots of stuff, mind you, and lots of commands, but real time. There's a roguelike (rpg) mode somewhere I believe, but I never managed to get far enough to find it.

The adventure mode is avialable when you create a world. New game, adventure.

I played a little bit of unreal world. Don't feel qualified to talk about it much. Its more a survival sim. You can get killed by a herd of reindeer if your not carefull. But its a good game. Very detailed.

[Ironhawk]

Yeah DF is really a complex simulator that has ascii graphics. However I think it also has an adventure mode? Which is roguelike