EA Arco - uncle moneybags

[Aezeal]

dominion of 5 and In a solid dominon he’ll have over 300 hitpoints --> means probably not usuable for expansion against any opponent.

but to be honest even though you say he's still usable late in teh game you don't base your strat around him anymore so it's not really a problem.. he's just not THAT good as you make it sound there IMHO

I don't know his slots but how would you kit him out?

[analytic_kernel]

Another interesting guide, Baalz.

In my experience playing with EA Arco, I've also become a big fan of the Oreiad and developed a strat quite similar to what you recommend. Hadn't thought of matching Wyverns with Oreiades though - thanks for the idea.

I do wonder about your suggestion to use buffed Myrmidons though. Myrmidons are slooow, slower than other heavy infantry that I'm aware of. And, with a rcost of 28 (in vanilla) and Sloth 3 scales, its hard to get many of them. For the same rcost (in vanilla), you can get Chariots which are also prot 17, but are much quicker and can trample.

[Ironhawk]

Yeah the White Bull is ok for expansion but later on his trample is fairly meaningless and worse he has no good slots!! Any proper SC would make mincemeat out of him.

One other thing I was going to ask: how are you coping with fatigue in your initial expansion? You've got all this trample fatigue, but then you've also got more from beserk. Not to mention from your buffs. Do your expansion tests presume a certain level of indy strength? Cause at like 8-9 for example I would get really concerned.

[Redeyes]

Originally Posted by Baalz

Now, the obvious counter to this sort of thing is anti-SCs equipped with magic items to pop the mistform. So, why not have some of your lovely ladies

Swarm Dragonflies mess Oreiads up if they can get in close, cutting through protection, awe & mistform, all the three common defenses of the Oreiad.

Vine shields is essentially a perfect defense against dragonflies but is too expensive to include in the Oreiads' kit.

[Trumanator]

Well he's said before that all/most of his guides are presuming normal settings (indies 5).

[Dragar]

I recently tried a similar starting strat with arco, but I had the bull with high dominion and no earth. I think Dom 9 and nature 5 from memory. For an awake pretender SC I think you really need to have the dominion push from high dominion, and the extra hit poitns stacked very well with the personal regen I went for first up. Protection is lower but you have awe, so need it less, and with regen and recuperation you can take a few hits.

It possibly has less utility later without the earth, but is dominant early, meaning you have strong dominion all game (promote your good scales and keep bad ones out) and if you happen to die you are only dropping 1 path rather than 2.

[Tichy]

Hey there -- I did up the white bull. With those scales dom 5 and E4N4 you seem to have 65 points left over.

Am I missing something?

If not, it seems you could either take dom 6 and N5 with 3 points left, or keep dom 5 and get rid of either the cold or death.

[cleveland]

Originally Posted by Tichy

Hey there -- I did up the white bull. With those scales dom 5 and E4N4 you seem to have 65 points left over.

Am I missing something?

If not, it seems you could either take dom 6 and N5 with 3 points left, or keep dom 5 and get rid of either the cold or death.

I noticed the same thing, but I have 48 points left over. Under both CBM 1.41 & CBM 1.3. Hilarious, really.

Totally agree with taking Dom6 + N5...Faery Trod + Army of Lead = Goodnight Irene. Put that in your lategame usefulness pipe and smoke it.

Alternately, I recommend taking another point of Cold and investing in some Blood magic. Why? Because it's the funniest image in all of Dominions:
Arcoscepalian Squire, nervously clutching Sanguine Dousing Rod: "Er, Highness? You want me to put it WHERE?"
Great White Bull: "MOOOOOOO!"

Horn of Valor is a close second.

[Fantomen]

[quote=cleveland;677406]

Originally Posted by Tichy

Alternately, I recommend taking another point of Cold and investing in some Blood magic. Why? Because it's the funniest image in all of Dominions:
Arcoscepalian Squire, nervously clutching Sanguine Dousing Rod: "Er, Highness? You want me to put it WHERE?"
Great White Bull: "MOOOOOOO!"

Horn of Valor is a close second.

A somewhat less obscene but likewise fitting piece of gear would be the bell of cleansing.

[DonCorazon]

Originally Posted by Fantomen

A somewhat less obscene but likewise fitting piece of gear would be the bell of cleansing.

I am so glad you didn't say Bag of Wind, that would have just been sick