Communions - Page 3

Gregstrom · #1 March 8th, 2009, 04:45 PM

I often feel that the edit limit is a complete pain in the arse.

Still, it all goes to prove that communions genuinely are confusing.

Edit: Cool - the filters can't cope with British english (yet...).

vfb · #2 March 8th, 2009, 08:33 PM

You can only use 1 gem to boost your path and cast a spell you would otherwise not have access to. You can use multiple gems for fatigue reduction, and it does work.

My test: D6 PoD casting CBM Bone Grinding (D7,fatigue x 2, 30D gems, neutral magic scales.

1st cast: uses 1 gem. Fatigue at 99.

castspell: cnr143 spl396 (Bone Grinding) vis1 x6 y16 spldmg3^M
vis 1 xvis 1^M

2nd cast: uses 6 gems. Fatigue at 115

castspell: cnr143 spl396 (Bone Grinding) vis6 x6 y16 spldmg3^M
vis 6 xvis 6^M

I'm not sure why fatigue is 115 after the second cast, and not 119 (99+99/5) or 114 (99+99/5-5).

Also: it's annoying how when casting spells in combat, the casting algorithm does not like to use gems to reduce fatigue, until you actually have fatigue. It would be much more efficient to just cast with 2 gems both times, or better yet 3 gems, instead of 1 gem for the 1st cast, then 6 gems for the second.

PsiSoldier · #3 April 27th, 2009, 08:39 AM

Ive run into a communion problem that I did not expect and I cannot explain.

I have a communion of 8 Bane's with Slave Matrix's and an Alchemist with a Crystal Matrix. However the communion does not work. The Alchemist does not recieve any boost from the slaves as he was apparently unable to cast the spells I had scripted AND the slaves do not receive any of the buffs that the Alchemist casts on himself such as Fire Resistance etc...

I was under the impression that Slave Matrix would work for anyone. Is this not the case? Does it not work on undead or does it simply not work on commanders with no magic path? I'm guessing from what I see here that slave matrix's simply do not work on commanders with no magic path although I'd swear I have read something that said otherwise.

Can anyone explain this or tell me how to make it work appropriately?

Endoperez · #4 April 27th, 2009, 09:05 AM

Pythium Communicants are the only non-mages that can be communion slaves.

PsiSoldier · #5 April 27th, 2009, 09:09 AM

I guess that means handing off my Slave matrix's to Troll Kings instead of the Banes.

Endoperez · #6 April 27th, 2009, 10:25 AM

Wow, Troll Kings as communion slaves...

You don't have access to something like, Wolf Tribe Shamans, or Revenants?

MaxWilson · #7 April 27th, 2009, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Endoperez

Wow, Troll Kings as communion slaves...

You don't have access to something like, Wolf Tribe Shamans, or Revenants?

Well, in a Linebacker communion you'd rather have Troll Kings than Revenants. Although actually you'd rather have Troll Kings AND Revenants, since the marginal cost of adding Revenants is so low.

-Max

Endoperez · #8 April 28th, 2009, 02:45 AM

Oops, I forgot you can do a communion in reverse. I've done it myself, just not that often.

PsiSoldier · #9 April 28th, 2009, 05:14 AM

Yeah, Lots of Thug slaves, and a few masters with Ranged weapons casting buffs and then firing. Too bad it wont work with banes though..

Aezeal · #10 April 28th, 2009, 05:17 AM

I still need more feed back on how to use that correctly.