Lychantrops' amulet effects on national heroes

[PsiSoldier]

Originally Posted by JimMorrison

I subbed into a game where the pretender (a Great Enchantress as well!) had the Champion's Trident. O.o

Then another where my Ghost King had the Boots of the Planes, and I didn't notice, and 2 turns later he got Lost in Time and Space - just after I grabbed his weapon for a tartarian.

I keep wanting to try out the Pebble suit, but I hate items you can't remove - maybe I decide later I want something else?

New spell! Blobform. Turns you into a Blob with no slots, so you can get cursed items off. Now, if only we could figure out how to change you back. o.O

I imagine you may already know this but you can wish for a two handed item if you are holding a cursed one handed item or Helm or Armor or boots and it will give you what you wish for and remove the cursed item. Doesnt work for Misc. items though unless of course you only have one Misc. slot

I like the Blobform idea though haha.

[ano]

Pebble suit and Lychantrop's amulet don't work on undead, lifeless and monsters

[Stavis_L]

Originally Posted by ano

Pebble suit and Lychantrop's amulet don't work on undead, lifeless and monsters

I can confirm that I definitely have had the pebble suit transform Tartarians (which are undead, but not lifeless.) As far as "monsters" - what attribute would indicate that something is a "monster"?

[Meglobob]

I like the pebble suit and equip it on a wimpy earth mage, so they become a more powerful troll mage usually. A crystal mage or other old earth mage is excellent for the transformation becasue you get rid of old age and with the additional blood stone and earth boots get a E5 mage who can cast all kinds of earth goodness. I see no reason to ever want to remove the pebble stone suit in that situation.

I can't think of a good strategy to use pebble suit/transformation with off the top of my head in cbm. But will keep a eye out for one.

[Il Magno]

Another test in my solo game:

I have cast gift of reason on an Elephant to have it as a commander

added the amulet to move it to Morale 99

added some protective gear to protect the investment

added a bodyguard of 15 elephants

now I have to check if it works in a battle

I wonder if it payoff.....

[ano]

I don't know for sure what the tag is but Baalz many times said that Kraken didn't transform into werewolf for about 200 turns or even more.
Maybe pebble suit has different mechanics...
Will test it.

[chrispedersen]

I wonder if being low on hit points contributes to the chance of change. I only mention it as it is so with fever fetishes.. and reusing code is good practise.

As a test, 10 creatures at 5 hp diseased, vs 10 creatures at 10 hp.

[Baalz]

Originally Posted by ano

I don't know for sure what the tag is but Baalz many times said that Kraken didn't transform into werewolf for about 200 turns or even more.
Maybe pebble suit has different mechanics...
Will test it.

It's possible that it's the pretender flag, several things don't affect pretenders. The Kraken was the only thing I've ever done an extended test on, though a I mentioned I've occasionally stuck them on things I thought unlikely to change since then (angels, demons etc) and not seen one turn.

[llamabeast]

I wonder if being low on hit points contributes to the chance of change. I only mention it as it is so with fever fetishes.. and reusing code is good practise.

Meep, not so. Fever fetishes mainly produce gems on people with less hp that they started with, rather than just low hp. High hp carriers are a good choice because they last longer.

[chrispedersen]

Respectfully, I disagree. The first few turns I seem to get few gems. The last few turns I almost always get gems.