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				 Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [few more spots left, join now!!!] 
 Preponderance 1 has finished earlier, due to massive end game madness. Now, with some tweaks, to prevent bad things from happening, 2nd edition is accepting players.
 Settings - that time it will be RAND game. That means you don't know who is who [you know who is with who though], no trading allowed, no NAPs, no allainces, no communication at all. You know who was playing a nation once that team is eliminated.
 
 All nations are divided into 2 sets [not decided how exactly, probably strong-weak], you get one nation from each set. Choices will be probably final [or you can switch 1 nation to one of free, but cannot reverse it].
 
 Settings [can be still modified]:
 Map: WoG Remake Team Arena [12 teams of 2] with some tweaks
 Gold: 150%
 Resources: 150%
 Magic sites: 55
 Research: Difficult
 HoF: 15
 Mods: latest CBM [1.5] + banned spells + banned uber discount sites [except placed on map] + banned gem-gens [we can add CPCS too, if majority is for it]
 
 Teams:
 
 01. EA Sauromatia - MA Eriu
 02. EA Mictlan - MA Agartha
 03. EA T'ien Ch'i - EA Kailasa
 04. EA Fomoria - LA C'tis
 05. EA Abysia - MA Shinuyama
 06. EA Vanheim - MA Pangaea
 07. EA Helheim - LA Pangaea
 08. EA Lanka - LA Ulm
 09. MA Ermor - EA Arcoscephale
 10. MA Arcoscephale - LA Patala
 11. MA Mictlan - EA Yomi
 12. MA Vanheim - MA Marignon
 13. MA Jotunheim - MA Ulm
 14. LA Arcoscephale - MA Caelum
 15. LA Mictlan - EA Ulm
 16. LA T'ien Ch'i - LA Abysia
 17. LA Agartha - LA Pythium
 18. LA Midgard - MA Machaka
 19. LA Utgard - EA Marverni
 20. LA Gath - EA Tir na n'Og
 21. LA Marignon - EA Agartha
 22. LA Caelum - MA Bandar Log
 
 Priority for signing will have vets and players from Prepo 1.
 
 About the map - please make suggestion on what to fix. Biggest problem is with Troll Kings, so they will be removed [or have their cost upped appropriately, to 500-800 gold per one].
 
 Other map tweaks will include improved guards in caves, bodyguards for important mages, boots of youth where needed, increased population in caves.
 
 Players signed so far:
 1. Namad
 2. Unoptimized
 3. Gregstrom
 4. sansanjuan
 5. P3D
 6. namad
 7. Cicadian
 8. Alpine Joe
 9. Frozen Lama
 10. Trumanator
 11. DrP
 12. Ossa
 13. OoohSnap
 14. nozshand
 15. Zlefin [?]
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 17. shard [?]
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 Teams:
 
 1. Frozen Lama + Trumanator
 2. Gregstrom + DrP
 3. namad + Alpine Joe
 
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				May 20th, 2009, 12:46 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups] 
 Also Zlefin may be able to finish his F/W thug mod soon, so we can add it. I guess it will be cool addition?   |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups] 
 Z,Interesting.  A couple (perhaps stupid) questions.
 
 Is RAND an acronym for something or referring to a random assignment of nations?
 
 If a player signs up there will be a process whereby each player is given (secretly) a (random) strong and his teammate a (random) weak nation to play or vise versa?
 
 Trading between these two player owned  nations is ok but not with other player nations.
 
 Unsure of what the Troll King issue could be.  Could you elaborate?
 
 I like to try.  Any idea when it would start?
 
 
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				May 20th, 2009, 01:29 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups] 
 i'll play pending someone i like agreeing to be my teammate (possibly someone i don't yet know)
 additionally i'd like to know more about the nation selection process i thought it went reasonably well last time? how will order of selection be determined? lottery?
 
 
 i guess pm me or irc me if you think i want you to be my teammate... if you are even suspecting it slightly then i probably do and i will probably ask you at some point when i am not afk.....
 
 or is zeldor assigning teams instead of letting us cherry pick?
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				May 20th, 2009, 01:45 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups] 
 no troll kings.  is that even a question? ;p
 edit: sansanjuan - RAND means random nations no diplomacy - so you are not allowed to state what nation you are playing, or enter into any communication w/ the other nations for whatever purposes.
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				 Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups] 
 Yeah, named for famous Pasha's RAND games    
Nation selection is simple: you get one nation from group A and one from group B. You can change one nation to undistributed ones from same group [you don't know which ones are free and you cannot change back]. You decide with your teammate who plays which nation.
 
You can [should] pick your teammate. You can talk with him about everything, you just cannot say what nation you are. And you just cannot communicate with other nations/players. So you are on your own, no trades or alliances. 
 
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				May 20th, 2009, 02:19 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups] 
 Preponderance 2, so soon?What the hell happened?
 
 I really disliked the map in this game, led to a 3 vs 1 in the first 15 turns...
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				 Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups] 
 I think I'd like to play in this.  I'd vote for CPCS, and Endo's Site Mod, and possibly even Mytheology to be included. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups] 
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