MP: Setsumi - Come for the game, stay for the drama!

[Anthropos]

Option C: Roll back to Turn 53.
Option A: Do nothing and continue the game as normal
Option D: For turns 56-59 non-Ermor players submit a single non-blank .2h file, Ermor plays all turns. (Blank .2h files should be used for all turns so Zeldor can't tell in advance if a player will be staling, or force people to wait until the last 5 minutes to submit turns, etc.)
Option E: Everyone but Ermor stales 56 and 57. Continue as normal with 58.
Option B: Complete turn 56 as normal then run turns 57 and 58 with only Ermor submitting turns. Turn 59 would resume as normal

[Kuritza]

Cant help saying that this poll is just baaaaaaaaaaaad.

A) This variant is unacceptable for Zeldor. If we choose A, congratulations - we've lost 10 days only to continue playing without Zeldor.
B) It seem this version has most votes by now.
C) This variant is unacceptable for me. Do you really want me to go AI to make up for Ermor's stales?
D)This is simply an overcompensation. Giving Ermor 3 free turns in late game, with just one turn for us to save our armies, when he already has a huge lead in armies and gems (except me maybe), is an I.WIN button - Marignon will die with no hopes to recover.
E) It 'almost' ok, but it punishes me for Ermor's stales. I fail to see how this is fair.

[SciencePro]

Originally Posted by Kuritza

Cant help saying that this poll is just baaaaaaaaaaaad.

Okay obviously I wasn't clear before. Let me say it a little louder: YOU CAN SUGGEST WHATEVER OPTION YOU WANT! Please do that now. If people are interested in whatever option you come up with they can re-submit their vote.

There is no fear of "splitting the vote" because the schulze system will figure out what would have won in a pairwise runoff between the two best options.

So could we please try to make some kind of productive suggestion instead of just griping, complaining, and threatening to quit.

Dragar has suggested:
Option F: Declare the game finished and Ermor the winner.

Kuritza has suggested:
something? Fill me in here. What do you want to do?

[Kuritza]

Originally Posted by SciencePro

Okay obviously I wasn't clear before. Let me say it a little louder: YOU CAN SUGGEST WHATEVER OPTION YOU WANT! Please do that now. If people are interested in whatever option you come up with they can re-submit their vote.

I already voiced my opinion, in the very beginning. We should have just continued because 3-turns rollback and forced stales are absurd. Bad stuff happens, there's nobody to blame for it. Continue if you can.

Ok, we tried to make an agreement, we suggested some variants. Micah did, I did, you did. We tried. But in my opinion its either everybody agrees on something, or we just go on as is.
I can assure you that I will quit this game if we rollback 3 turns after our democratic poll. Or, for example, if we decide on 3 forced stales with one turn in-between, and Ermor takes that opportunity to raid the hell out of me somehow.
Or is Man going AI because of these stales a better result than Ermor going AI?
If we cant continue normally, we should close this game without a winner.

P.S.

Well, I have another solution. There are 10 players in this game; if one player can ask for a 3-turns rollback, so can others, right?
I vote for a 30-turns rollback. Then its fair for everyone!

[Ossa]

/givecookie_to_Kuritza

Well said.

[Zeldor]

I'd surely prefer to have some agreement by biggest players than voting like that. But well, it's not like we didn't try. I will wait till everyone makes a vote and add mine, checking if it can make any difference, as I'd prefer to not vote about a matter that is about me.

[SciencePro]

Originally Posted by Zeldor

I'd surely prefer to have some agreement by biggest players than voting like that.

I don't think it is fair to exclude the "little" players in a decision that will affect them too.

Just because a player doesn't have a realistic chance of getting 1st place in the game, he might still enjoy playing his turns and learning more about the game. It wouldn't seem right to submit a big rollback or force stales on them without allowing them the same chance to weigh in as everyone else.

[Kuritza]

Then again, just closing the game is still punishing these of us who didnt stale and just want to keep playing. ^^

[SciencePro]

okay so I tried to help the group come to a fair solution. But obviously I have failed completely as a leader.

Since my approval rating is hovering at exactly 0% there is no point to me continuing as admin. The admin password is painintheass

Good luck to anyone who wants to step up and take over.

[Ossa]

Actually you did a very good job - maybe we should just let the poll stay up one more day and then count the votes.