Baalz' good player pledge

[GrudgeBringer]

Sorry, but to smear a guy because I noticed something would not benefit the site and may start a Flame war which I don't want to be involved in.

I know you are a serious player and don't want to spend your time if that person is in a game with you, but in this case I would prefer not making a big case of it.

He has been around enough to be noticeable but isn't a MAJOR threat like Executor (hi buddy), Psycho, squirrelloid, and many more. Trust me, there are more and more people starting to notice it and his name will surface soon.

[TwoBits]

You know, there is a place where airing such grievances is more or less (pretty much more) acceptable

[Jorus]

I think the pledge is a good idea because it communicates a major concern of many players to ALL players. I'm happy to abide by the pledge, but have a few questions;

1. What about a game administrator pledge? I have been in games where I have invested countless hours - but needed a short extension for RL concerns. I communicate the request in a timely manner, but it is ignored and I have a stale (or two) in a tightly contested game! Sheez.

2. Ethical Question: What if a player is part of a team (and is the weaker link - by far - of the team) and he advises his ally that the best thing to do would be for the stronger player to take over the provinces of the weaker player? In this way resources (gems, money, research, etc.) would be better utilized - for the team. On the other hand, it could be argued that the weaker player is not "fighting to the death".

[Lingchih]

What value is such a pledge, when it's own owner does not abide by it?

Not much value, methinks.

[Ragnars Wolves]

As A new player I feel like that EXACTLY!!!

However, if people do pledge and break it and I can see it, then I am prepared if I see them in a game and it is nobody's fault but my own if they do bail and I have known about it.

As a previous post said "You could make some players put down a deposit and they would still break it". Whether it is a good tool to judge the charecter of a player or not I have no opinion. BUT, as a tool to see if I want to spend 3 months playing and they have a record of 'exiting early and often' them I might pass on that game.

I am just a new guy on here, but saw the same things in MOO2 (shows my age), Civil War Generals 2, and a number of other games that I invested time in just to be dissapointed.

Thank you.

[rdonj]

Baalz has a record of AIing when being attacked by half the players in the game 2/10 of the time, oh noes.

He should have said something first, just in case there was a sub crazy enough to want to try. But I don't really blame him that much.

[Corvus]

In the game I'm running six out of nine player either went AI without a word or couldn't find a sub and went AI, so I know how frustrating dropouts are. Might not really mean much but I'll pledge.

[Kref]

I've decided to make a post with those who pledged for now.
I'll try to avoid playing with non-signers after mindblade.
I am putting " -- ?" symblols after people who, as much as I've understood, support at least significant part of pledge (I didn't understood from their posts that they fully support the pledge).

13lackGu4rd; aaminoff; Aethyr; Agema; AlgaeNymph; Alpine Joe -- ?; analytic_kernel; ano -- ?; AreaOfEffect; Baalz; Belac; binarysolo; Black Sun Empire; Burnsaber; Calahan -- ?; chrispedersen -- ?; Corvus; DakaSha; Deathjester; Digress; Dimaz; Elrctro808; Euarchus; FAJ; Fakeymcfake; Fantomen; Frozen Lama; GameExtremist; Gandalf Parker; Gregstrom; Grijalva; GrudgeBringer; Hadrian_II -- ?; Ishamoridin; Jarkko; JR77; Juffos; Kheldron; kianduatha; Kietsensei; Krec; Kref; LDiCesare; llamabeast; LoloMo; lsokron; Mardagg; MartialDoctor; Micah -- ?; militarist; Mithras; Morpf; Pablomatic; pfloom; RabbitDynamite; Raiel; rdonj; Samhain; SciencePro; secretperson; Sensori; Septimius Severus; sevenwarlocks; Sil; Skor; slayers_ai; Squirrelloid; Stagger Lee; Starshine_Monarch; statttis; Strabo; Stretch; swapoer; the Vanishag; thunderbird; Tollund; Toran; Trumanator; TwoBits; vladikus; Wrana; zzcat.

I am sure the list would be updated, so if I missed someone just post that.

[Eximius Sus]

Originally Posted by Kref

I've decided to make a post with those who pledged for now.
I'll try to avoid playing with non-signers after mindblade.
I am putting " -- ?" symblols after people who, as much as I've understood, support at least significant part of pledge (I didn't understood from their posts that they fully support the pledge).

13lackGu4rd; aaminoff; Aethyr; Agema; AlgaeNymph; Alpine Joe -- ?; analytic_kernel; ano -- ?; AreaOfEffect; Baalz; Belac; binarysolo; Black Sun Empire; Burnsaber; Calahan -- ?; chrispedersen -- ?; Corvus; DakaSha; Deathjester; Digress; Dimaz; Elrctro808; Euarchus; FAJ; Fakeymcfake; Fantomen; Frozen Lama; GameExtremist; Gandalf Parker; Gregstrom; Grijalva; GrudgeBringer; Hadrian_II -- ?; Ishamoridin; Jarkko; JR77; Juffos; Kheldron; kianduatha; Kietsensei; Krec; Kref; LDiCesare; llamabeast; LoloMo; lsokron; Mardagg; MartialDoctor; Micah -- ?; militarist; Mithras; Morpf; Pablomatic; pfloom; RabbitDynamite; Raiel; rdonj; Samhain; SciencePro; secretperson; Sensori; Septimius Severus; sevenwarlocks; Sil; Skor; slayers_ai; Squirrelloid; Stagger Lee; Starshine_Monarch; statttis; Strabo; Stretch; swapoer; the Vanishag; thunderbird; Tollund; Toran; Trumanator; TwoBits; vladikus; Wrana; zzcat.

I am sure the list would be updated, so if I missed someone just post that.

Seems your post is kinda pointless since some of those who signed didn't meet the pledge. I've never signed and I don't stale or go AI. You'd do better to choose opponents based on their record rather than some arbitrary pledge.

[Lingchih]

This post has become useless.